Samsung LN-T4661F
Manufacturer: Samsung Part number: LN-T4661F
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- Although not quite the best of its breed, the Samsung LN-T4661F delivers very good picture quality with plenty of style and functionality.
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CNET editors' review
Samsung LN-T4661F price range: $799.95 - $1,719.00
- Reviewed by: David Katzmaier
- Reviewed on: 06/18/2007
- Released on: 04/01/2007
The good: Flat-panel LCD HDTV produces deep black levels; accurate color after adjustment; clean image; numerous picture controls; beautiful styling.
The bad: Less shadow detail than some LCDs and plasmas; image discolors somewhat when seen from off-angle.
The bottom line: Although not quite the best of its breed, the Samsung LN-T4661F delivers very good picture quality with plenty of style and functionality.
Editors' Note 10-07-07: The rating this review has been modified from 7.9 to 7.6 because of changes in the competitive marketplace, including the introduction of models with 120Hz processing.
The LN-T4661F is Samsung's least-expensive 46-inch flat-panel LCD with 1080p native resolution for the 2007 model year. We recently reviewed another 46-inch 1080p LCD HDTV from Samsung, model LN-T4665F, so you may be wondering why we chose to review this one so soon afterward. The answer is shine. We complained about the 65F's shiny screen because it reflected lots of ambient light, acting more like a mirror than any TV screen we'd seen yet. The 61F's screen has the standard matte finish, which really cuts down on glare. But between the two, we did feel the LN-T4665F offered slightly better picture quality despite the shine (more on that below), making it a better choice for real home theater buffs and others with a lot of control over room lighting. On the other hand, the LN-T4661F should satisfy people who just can't stomach glare, and its picture quality, feature set and exterior design are still a cut above most LCDs on the market.
Design
We really liked the futuristic look of the Samsung LN-T4661F. While both Samsung LCDs, along with most other HDTVs from all kinds of manufacturers lately, are clad entirely in glossy black, the LN-T4661F has a few different styling cues of its own. The speakers hide on the bottom, as opposed to the sides, and sound is deflected into the room by a narrow lip that runs along the bottom of the frame. The swivel base, which allows the panel to move about 20 degrees to either side, is oval instead of rectangular. And fans of the company's prominent circular power button will be thrilled to see it's back in full effect here.
Including the stand, the LN-T4665H measures 43.6 inches wide by 30.2 inches high by 12.8 inches deep. Without it, the panel measures 43.6 inches wide by 23.8 inches high by 4.1 inches deep.
Samsung's remote is almost the same as last year, and we generally found the slender wand easy to operate. Only the keys for volume, channel, and device control (the universal clicker can command four other pieces of gear) are illuminated, but that's better than most TV remotes, which skip backlighting altogether. All of the buttons are nicely separated and differentiated, with the exception of the secondary controls clustered at the clicker's base, which kind of blend together. We'd like to see dedicated buttons for each input, although since the set automatically senses and skips inactive inputs, cycling between sources is less arduous than usual.
Features
Readers of the LN-T4665F review will experience some deja vu when reading the below because the two reviews' Features sections, like the two TVs' feature sets, are basically identical.
With a native resolution of 1,920x1,080 pixels, popularly known as "1080p," the Samsung LN-T4661F has enough pixels to resolve every detail of 1080i and 1080p HDTV sources, although it falls a bit short in real life (see Performance for more). All other sources, including 720p HDTV, DVD, computer, and standard-def, are scaled to fit the pixels.
The LN-T4661F includes HDMI 1.3-compatible inputs, which have higher bandwidth than the older versions. In itself that doesn't mean much, but it does enable the LN-T4661F to offer a menu selection labeled "xvYCC," which refers to a wider color space that supposedly comes closer to human vision's capabilities than the current HDTV color space. Of course, you'll need an HDMI 1.3-compatible source (the player and disc, for example), and as far as we know, there isn't any xvYCC content available. In other words, we classify xvYCC and HDMI 1.3 inputs, at least as implemented on the LN-T4661F, as "no big deal." The set's spec sheet also mentions 10-bit processing, but when we asked Samsung, they said that the panel itself doesn't deliver 10-bit color--just that the processing is capable of it. Extra bit depth can allow less false contouring, among other issues, but again, it requires a 10-bit source and display.
Segueing to features that actually matter, the LN-T4661F has an excellent selection of picture controls. It offers three picture modes that are each independent for each input, allowing you to customize each source with three different groups of picture settings. Only Movie mode allows full adjustment, however, so we recommend using it for the most demanding viewing conditions. In addition to the standard brightness, contrast, etc., sliders, there's a full-fledged backlight control, which is also independent per input.
In addition to the five presets for color temperature, there's a full set of detailed color temperature controls. Labeled "white balance," they offer both gain and offset adjustments for red, green, and blue, which allows slightly more advanced users to really zero in the set's grayscale. The My Color control, on the other hand, doesn't seem to do much of anything, so we left it in the default positions. The selection of secondary picture controls includes items labeled "black level," which affects shadow detail; dynamic contrast, which adjusts black level on the fly; gamma, which affects the rate of progression from dark to light; and a selection for color gamut, which controls the range of colors the display can reproduce.
We appreciated the solid selection of aspect-ratio controls, which include four choices for HD sources. Just Scan is the mode best suited for 1080i and 1080p sources, because it introduces no overscan and displays the image with no scaling. Standard-def sources allow four choices as well, including two zoom modes you can adjust vertically, to see subtitles or obscure tickers, for example.


Performance
Overall, the Samsung LN-T4661F came close to the picture quality of its slightly more expensive brother, the LN-T4665F, but fell a bit short in a couple of areas. The first is its superior detail in shadows, and the second is its significantly better off-axis viewing characteristics. In most other aspects of picture quality, including depth of black, resolution, color accuracy and saturation, the two were very similar. If you're more of a home theater stickler who turns off the lights for movies and can control your room's ambient light in most other situations, then the shiny-screened 65F gets the nod. But if you're stuck with a bright room or simply don't want to contend with the glare from the 65F's screen, the 61F makes a solid choice.
During setup, as usual, we adjusted the picture settings to levels ideal for our darkened theater. We chose the Gamma -2 mode because it seemed to provide the best balance between preserving shadow detail and delivering a smooth, realistic rise out of black. We'd have liked to go with -3 mode, as we did with the 65F, but that ended up obscuring too much shadow detail. After reducing light output to around 40 ftl, we used the extensive color temperature fine-tuning controls to improve quite a bit upon the Warm2 preset (see the Geek Box below). For a complete look at our user-menu picture settings, click here or check out the Tips & Tricks section above.
For this review, we set up the LN-T4661F next to a few other HDTVs we had on hand, including its aforementioned "shiny" step-up brother, the LN-T4665F, along with the Sony KDL-46S3000, the Panasonic TH-42PZ700U, and the Pioneer PRO-FHD1.
We began, as usual, with a good look at the LN-T4661F's black-level performance, and the set did not disappoint. We had it right next to the LN-T4665F and, despite Samsung's "true black" advertising (which pertains to the 65F and not the 61F), after calibration it was often difficult to tell which one displayed a deeper color of black. Our measurements told us it was the 65F by a hair, but that set did have slightly brighter edges compared to the middle, making the 61F appear darker in certain scenes, especially predominantly dark ones like the void of space in the beginning of Planet of the Apes. For the record, both Samsung LCDs and the Panasonic plasma evinced about the same level of black, while the Sony LCD and the Pioneer plasma appeared visibly lighter.
When calibrating the TVs in our comparisons we adjust the relavant controls to achieve the best combination of black level and shadow detail. In the case of the 61F, we felt this combination was best achieved by sacrificing some detail in shadows to get the blacks deeper -- a compromise we didn't have to make with the 65F. The effect of that compromise with the 61F was the most-visible difference between the two sets. When Mark Wahlberg's ship first crashes on the planet, for example, we could see less of the leaves under the darkest parts of the jungle foliage on the 61F. Gradations from light to shadow, which were evident in the hallway of shadowed plant husks outside the ape city, also appeared a bit more realistic on the 65F and the plasmas. The 61F's shadow detail was still a cut above that of most LCDs however, including the Sony.
The LN-T4661F has accurate primary colors in common with its shinier brother, and other areas of color accuracy, including grayscale performance, were very similar. After calibration the 61F, like the 65F, evinced a grayscale that tended to redden dark areas of the image. This issue was evident, for example, when Walhberg's face and, especially, his dark hair appeared a bit redder than on our reference Pioneer plasma after he's thrown to the ground during the apes' dinner and looks back at his tormentor. Overall, however, colors were still quite well-saturated and vibrant, from the green of the jungle plants to the apes' various skin tones to the red cushions and tapestries in the main ape's bedchamber. Even with its less-accurate grayscale, the LN-T4661F's color accuracy is among the best we've seen from a flat-panel LCD.
As we expected, the Samsung also delivered a very clean image. We didn't notice any false contouring during the film, even in tough areas like the sunlight in the misty jungle that showed slight contours on the Panasonic plasma. Video noise, even in skies and shadows, was also not a noticeable issue.
Although Apes appears a bit softer than many Blu-ray titles, it still packs plenty of detail, which the LN-T4661F conveyed faithfully. We enjoyed the weave in the carpet under the card-playing soldiers, for example, and the individual golden strands of Estella Warren's hair during a close-up. It also behaves exactly the same as the 65F in our resolution tests--failing to resolve every detail of a 1080i test pattern, for example, and failing both of the Geek Box 1080i deinterlacing tests (although it passed the video test when in "16:9" as opposed to "Just Scan" mode) from the HQV HD DVD and Blu-ray discs. We didn't see any evidence of those failures in Apes, but we did find a scene in Ghost Rider, where the grille of the RV at the end of Chapter 6 evinced some diagonal moiré along its horizontal grille. We don't consider failure at deinterlacing a deal-breaker for HDTV picture quality, although if you have access to 1080p content, we recommend choosing it to avoid the chance of seeing these sorts of artifacts.
For what it's worth, Samsung sent us a firmware update that worked with both sets to fix the deinterlacing of video-based, but not film-based, 1080i content and to show every line of a 1080-resolution test pattern. (This update is not reflected in our Geek Box results.) Update 06-20-07: We originally reported here that the firmware update would be available as a download from Samsung's web site. Now we hear from the company that the update may instead only be available to owners who call the Service Center and ask to have it sent. We'll update this section again when we're told more. New TVs equipped with the updated firmware will arrive on store shelves, according to Samsung, by mid- to late July 2007.
Flat-panel LCDs often display imperfect uniformity across the screen, although the LN-T4661F was better than most in this regard. We've mentioned that the screen of the 65F appears brighter along the edges than the middle, especially in darker areas. The 61F does as well, but the difference is quite a bit smaller, and its rightmost edge is the only area that was visibly brighter in black fields, such as the shots of the orbiting space station from the beginning of the film. In dark gray test patterns (15-20 IRE fields), we did notice a very slightly brighter area across the screen's middle as well, but it wasn't apparent in any program material we watched.
One area where the LN-T4661F falls a good deal short of its shiny cousin is in off-axis viewing. All LCDs, including the 65F, wash out a good deal when viewed from somewhere farther than a seat or two away from the sweet spot right in the center of the screen, but the 61F (along with the Sony) also acquired a slight reddish tinge when seen from off-angle to either side, an issue the 65F does not have. The washed-out blacks and red coloration became more apparent the farther we moved off-axis.
On the flip side, the LN-T4661F's matte screen reflected far less ambient light than the shiny screen of the 65F. With the room lights turned up, the 61F actually delivered a darker apparent color of black, and of course, we didn't see nearly as much of the room--including a watcher's white shirt or the coffee table in front of the TVs.
When we checked out the HP-T4661F's standard-def picture quality, using the HQV disc at 480i resolution via component video, the set performed exactly the same as the 65F--which is about average. According to the color bars pattern, the set resolved every detail of the DVD format, and the grass and bricks of the detail test were relatively sharp. On the other hand, it allowed many moving diagonal lines, such as the stripes on a waving American flag, to appear more jagged than we like to see. The four noise-reduction settings did a progressively better job of removing random motes of snowy noise from the disc's low-quality sunsets and shots of skies, but as usual, there was a trade-off, and details were softened somewhat as we increased NR. The Auto setting didn't really work well to automatically adjust the NR, especially in the "motion-adaptive" scenes with the roller coaster, so we recommend choosing one of the manual modes when you'd like to fight the noise. The LN-T4661F did engage 2:3 pull-down quickly and accurately.
As a PC monitor via the VGA input, the LN-T4661F performed exactly as its 65F counterpart. According to DisplayMate test patterns, the set resolved every line of vertical resolution and nearly every line of horizontal resolution with our video card set to 1,920x1,080 output. We detected a slight bit of softness in PC text at font sizes smaller than 10-point, but it certainly wasn't overt. The desktop filled the screen perfectly, and overall, we think most viewers will be happy with its capabilities as a big computer display.
| TEST | RESULT | SCORE |
| Before color temp (20/80) | 7006/7088K | Average |
| After color temp | 6398/6490K | Good |
| Before grayscale variation | +/- 623K | Average |
| After grayscale variation | +/- 126K | Average |
| Color of red (x/y) | 0.641/0.327 | Good |
| Color of green | 0.296/0.578 | Good |
| Color of blue | 0.149/0.068 | Good |
| Overscan | 0% | Good |
| Black-level retention | All patterns stable | Good |
| Defeatable edge enhancement | Y | Good |
| 480i 2:3 pull-down, 24 fps | Y | Good |
| 1080i video resolution | Fail | Poor |
| 1080i film resolution | Fail | Poor |
| Samsung LN-T4661F | Picture settings | ||
| Default | Calibrated | Power Save | |
| Picture on (watts) | 245.63 | 113.52 | 111.31 |
| Picture on (watts/sq. inch) | 0.27 | 0.13 | 0.13 |
| Standby (watts) | 0.78 | 0.78 | 0.78 |
| Cost per year | $75.07 | $34.95 | $34.28 |
| Score (considering size) | Good | ||
| Score (overall) | Average | ||
User reviews
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SAMSUNG is the new KING of LCD .
by jamesmiguel on May 14, 2007
Pros: Produces deep blacks with excellent shadow detail. Incredible amount of picture control. Excellent connectivity. Very sleek looking package.
Cons: Input cycling is a little slow. VGA input will not accept XBOX 360 so far.
Summary: Like many of you out there, I research all my expensive purchases before I buy. This model was just released so not even CNET has it rated yet. Choosing a ...
Summary: Like many of you out there, I research all my expensive purchases before I buy. This model was just released so not even CNET has it rated yet. Choosing a television at your local electronics store is no help either. Sure its fun to look but poor calibration, split signals and pushy salesman prevent us from making the perfect choice.
Not wanting to regret my purchase, I went to a yearly held electronics expo held in my home town. I saw many displays that day and they all looked great but only one in my price range really caught my eye. The SAMSUNG LNT5265F was running PEARL HARBOR off a new Blue Ray player. This TV was a little big for my needs but the picture was estonishing and really put SAMSUNG on top of my list of contenders.
The LNT4661F is one of SAMSUNG's high end 1080p displays and its size was just right. Altough it does not have the same contrast ratio as its brother the LNT4665F. It does retain most of the same specifications and features but without the reflective coating. This actualy was the deciding factor in my choice because of the anoying reflections I would get with my old bubble screen. I have had it for a little over 3 weeks now and tested it with pretty much everything I will be using it for and so far the good defenetly out weights the bad.
Design
This is one of Samsung greatest achivements in design. The bezel is made of black piano plastic with an approximate 1 inch and a half inch border which really helps perceived contract. There is a stylish mirror trim at the bottom of the screen that serves to redirect sound from the speakers but also gives it a very classy look. It is mounted on an oval shaped base made of the same material that swivels 20 degrees both ways. The remote is somewhat disapointing. It lacks dedicated input buttons. This is a minor anoyance because you have to cycle trew each input to get to the right one. It also lacks propers backlighthing for every button. I already had a LOGITECH HARMONY remote so it dosent really mater but I really expected more for the money.
Connectivity
The amount of inputs on this TV is impresive. I won?t name them all, I will let you check out the specs on SAMSUNG's web site. I will say that there are more inputs then on most other units. All of these Inputs give the user plenty of options but it also causes a small problem. This TV has input detection so that you only jump to inputs that are receiving a signal. The problem is that this detection is a little slow. Add the fact that you can?t go directly to the right input with the remote and you can get quite annoyed. Samsung has however allowed you to directly access the proper input by selecting it trew the main menu.All three HDMI 1.3 inputs are 1080p capable so you can benefit from the latest in digital signal transfer technology. I also connected my PC via the VGA input. The picture quality at 1920 x 1280 is great but small text is hard to read so you have to sit much closer to the screen then you would think. I also tried hooking up my XBOX 360 via the VGA input. I have been unsucessful so far in receiving a signal. I was forced to use one of the component inputs which luckaly accepts 1080p.
Video Performance
I highly recomend video calibration using a DVD ESSENTIALS or AVIA disk. Like most electronics companies this Display is sent out of the plant with extremely abnormal settings. I was pleased to see that SAMSUNG included alot of customization settings in the menu but I found that at times these settings would often cancel out each other making it a little difficult to get a perfect picture. The color accuracy on this unit is very good except for a small decoding error in the green channel that is unnoticable during regular viewing. I am pleased to report the Black's and shadow detail is extremely good without any noticable black crush like its predecessor.
Picture quality from HDTV and HD-DVD deliver excellent results. I watch alot more discovery channel then I normaly would because of the prestine life like images I get on this set. Most HD channels look great. Digital channels differ from one to the other but the best looking compare to DVD in quality. Standard definition TV is subpar when compared to CRT but that is to be expected with these types of sets. The best picture is still from HD-DVD. The shapness and contrast of the picture really showcases this displays talents. I was so mezmorized by the picture that I ended up going trew my entire collection in a week. DVD was much better than I expexted. Altough not as sharp as HD it is still very pleasing to watch.
High definition gaming with the XBOX 360 is extremely satisfing. Every game I played brought a smile to my face. The increased brightness and sharpness of LCD coupled with an 8 ms response time equaled many hours of killer gaming time. Gaming enthusiasts will be plased to know that Samsung worked closely with Microsoft to create a special Game Mode that optimiizes image quality, sound and response time for more realistic video game play. Activating this feature in the main menu makes the screen noticably brighter, Allowing me to see in darker portions of the image.
Viewing angles on this TV are very good with a 178 degree Horizontal and vertical range. There is a slight wash out past 35 Degrees but the picture is still very watchable.
Audio performance
Sound is adequate considering the small size from the speakers. Samsung has included a custum EQ in the main menu so you can tweak the audio all you want. This TV is equipped with SRS surround for simulating 5.1 but obviously does not replace a good sound system.
All things considered I beleive that SAMSUNG has a real winner on its hands. The LNT4661F has almost all of the benefits of its slightly more expensive brother the LNT4665F but without any reflections. Altough its not the case for me. If you have no problems with ambient light I would defenetly go for the 65F because of the small price diference. No matter what model you get I'm sure you will be happy.37 out of 37 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Excellent color, blackest black, very happy
by markc50 on April 14, 2007
Pros: great picture, impressive colors wonderful TV
Cons: None at this time
Summary: I spent a long time reading reviews and waffling between the different formats: DLP, Plasma, LCD. LCD's had some issues with clouding, but then I read a review that ...
Summary: I spent a long time reading reviews and waffling between the different formats: DLP, Plasma, LCD. LCD's had some issues with clouding, but then I read a review that the Samsung 4661 with True Black had solved that problem. I went to Best Buy, and the TV's were on sale for $2849. I asked the salesman if that was the best price and he told me that because the 4661 was a new model, they had wiggle room and sold it to me for $2449. I mentioned I had to upgrade my Comcast to Digital when I got home. He told me if I did it at the store, I'd get an additional $100 off. So, for $3048 I got the 46" TV, a 4 year warranty and a glass and chrome TV stand.
The 4661 is glossy Piano black. I turned the backlight down to 4 instead of 10, and the picture is still plenty bright. There is no evidense at all of pixelation. I am thoroughly impressed with the picture, and the sound is very good also. I like the swivel base. The remote is easy to use. I ordered a HDTV Calibration Wizard from the Imaging Science Foundation for $30. When that comes I'll calibrate the picture. Right now I had turned down the brightness to 6 and the contrast to 7. I use Normal picture setting. That may change with the calibation DVD. This is my first foray into HDTV and I couldn't be happier. Samsung has made an excellent product, at a very reasonable price.10 out of 10 users found this user opinion helpful.
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High recommendation
by likesdalmations on June 22, 2007
Pros: Picture, physical appearance, matte screen
Cons: Remote, sound, software bugs
Summary: I've had this TV about 4 weeks now as a replacement for Samsung's LN-S4695 which would occasionally lock up and go blank. Simply put every word in CNET'...
Summary: I've had this TV about 4 weeks now as a replacement for Samsung's LN-S4695 which would occasionally lock up and go blank. Simply put every word in CNET's review of the LN-T4661 is accurate in my experience. The picture is excellent and there are a numerous controls that can be used to make it even better. I would also note the improvement that Samsung has made in the finish of the piano black cabinet. The 4695 was a bit wavy here and there. The 4661 is very flat and smooth. You will appreciate the matte screen in a viewing room with normal lights and other light sources. The version of this set with the shiny screen noted in CNET's review may be annoying to many people.
I have downgraded the rating for 3 specific areas that could stand improvement. The first is the remote. It is frustrating to use as others have stated. I will admit that the buttons are well differeniated by size, shape and color which to a degree offsets the bad others have noted. I like the others have become used to it or bought a learning remote which doesn't require knowing Samsung's digital codes.
I have also downgraded the set for sound. I know that many people connect the TV to a receiver so these comments won't apply but some of us do use the internal speakers and controls and deserve better. The LN-S4695 had better sound. The sound is somewhat tinny and the cabinet does vibrate very slightly but only on certain frequencies. Not serious enough to bump this set out of your selection process especially if you do not plan to use the internal sound system.
However, the software behind the Auto Volume feature that is designed to level out the volume between different stations or programming simply does not work satisfactorily. It does indeed limit the volume but the volume is limited to such a low level that I found myself operating the volume at 100 on certain programs and it still wasn't loud enough for a medium sized room. Samsung Service was called in and they were able to increase the volume in the Auto mode somewhat but not enough in my opinion. So in my situation I don't use Auto Volume and just tolerate the volume changes between stations or inputs.
There are at least 2 more software bugs I've found in my set. The first has to do with the above Auto Volume menu selection. If the Auto Volume feature is selected by choosing YES, Auto Volume is actally defeated. When Auto Volume is unselected by choosing NO, the feature is enabled. If you plan to connect the set to an external amplifier this is a non-issue because the audio from the output jacks is not affected by the Auto Volume setting.
The other software bug I noted is similar and concerns the LNA (low noise amplifier) feature. Selecting YES for the LNA feature actually defeats the feature. Selecting NO enables the feature. If you use use cable or satellite you will not notice this issue. If you receive over the air, as I do, you simply need to be aware of issue and set the LNA (which works very well) accordingly (OFF to boost the signal and ON to not boost the signal).
I have not noticed any other features with this sort of logic inversion.
If you want to experience real frustration just try to explain subtle issues like these to the Samsung tech who comes to your home to correct it! These kinds of programming bugs are not what you'd expect from a major manufacturer.
OK. Now that I have finished critizing the very few shortcomings of the set, I still have to give it a 8 overall because these faults may not affect others who buy this set and because the picture is outstanding.
I'd sure like to hear from others who have experienced these or other similar software issues.7 out of 7 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Big Improvement from the Vizio
by rob_seltzer on July 23, 2007
Pros: Overall excellent for an LCD TV
Cons: None if you prefer and LCD TV
Summary: I bought a 47 inch Vizio LCD TV at Costco. After installing it on a wall mount with a full surround sound system, I discovered that it had some very ...
Summary: I bought a 47 inch Vizio LCD TV at Costco. After installing it on a wall mount with a full surround sound system, I discovered that it had some very disappointing characteristics. The off angel viewing was really poor and the contrast rations were relatively low. Even a few degrees off angle caused picture degradation, particularly in low light scenes. After spending weeks trying to adjust the problems away, I decided to replace it. I researched all of the 46 inch LCD TV's (46 inch was the perfect size for the location on my wall). My research resulted in the Samsung LN-T4661F as the best overall solution for my situation. I must say, I am very happy! The TV is all that I expected. The off angle viewing is excellent (for an LCD TV). Color saturation, blacks, contrast ratios are very good to excellent. I am not crazy for the design of the frame (very subjective point) but, other than that and, the slow transition on jpeg pictures from the USB port. I am a happy camper!
PS, Costo accepted the return of the Vizio.
I purchased the TV through Buydig.com. They delivered ahead of time and the price and service was excellent.6 out of 6 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Beautiful on and off
by lasergeek on May 23, 2007
Pros: great picture, decent sound, great look, 3 HDMI
Cons: needs calibration, busy remote
Summary: I traded in a Sony 40" V2500 to get this 46" Samsung (the 46" sony was too big for my cabinet). At first I was very disappointed with the picture. ...
Summary: I traded in a Sony 40" V2500 to get this 46" Samsung (the 46" sony was too big for my cabinet). At first I was very disappointed with the picture. The Sony's colors were outstanding right out of the box. The Samsung red's were all over the place. Playing with Color, Tint, Color Tone made little difference. Then I went to the "Detailed settings". TURN OFF: Active Color, Black Adjust, Dynamic Contrast. These "auto" controls fight your attempts to calibrate.
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Now I love the picture. Skin tones as good as the Sony!6 out of 6 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Best Overall TV I've Seen
by alloyd50 on June 26, 2007
Pros: Deep, satisfying blacks; crystal clear picture when source is adequate; very accurate color/facial tones
Cons: Off-angle viewing isn't great, as noted in CNET review; remote stinks
Summary: I initially had a Sony 46v2500 and it was great but the blacks were uneven and had "smudges" of lightness in dark scenes. I bought the Samsung 4661 and played ...
Summary: I initially had a Sony 46v2500 and it was great but the blacks were uneven and had "smudges" of lightness in dark scenes. I bought the Samsung 4661 and played them side by side with "The Descent" - a very dark movie - and the Samsung was unquestionably a superior TV. Overall contrast and punch is better on the Samsung, whereas the Sony (still a VERY nice TV) was ever so slightly more washed out. The Samsung's facial tones are superior as well, as on the Sony people of color's faces were green, and if I adjusted the tint, it gave white people's faces red splotches. The Sony did, however, have a 100x better remote and the menus were easier, too.
I'm a little mystified that CNET rated this only a 7.9 when in a major category - screen reflection - it improves on the 4665. Most other aspects are comparable. Is off angle viewing more important than screen reflectiveness?? Also, do they still rate the Sony XBR2 higher than this one? Not that i really care, I love the TV - but I want to know, what in their view is the best (non-reflective) 1080p TV out there? From the review, it seems that blacks are deeper than the Sony (which I can tell you is true) and the off angle issue is the same on the Sony s3000. Anyway, I'd like clarification on why the XBR2 is higher rated. I think CNET actually kind of underrated this TV in the scoring section.Updated
Oh yeah, one more thing - I walked all around the room while the TV was on - it washes out a bit off angle, but I didn't see any "reddish tinge" as cited in CNET review. The pillaring or edge brightness is almost never visible with proper settings.5 out of 6 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Fantastic rich colors, good price
by phonebuff on September 29, 2007
Pros: anti-reflection, rich colors, dark blacks
Cons: no negatives observed
Summary: I?m a LCD module technical staff engineer for large mobile phone company, so have VERY picky discerning eyes regarding display products. I do this for a living. We?ve ...
Summary: I?m a LCD module technical staff engineer for large mobile phone company, so have VERY picky discerning eyes regarding display products. I do this for a living. We?ve had this set now two weeks and I?m very impressed with the rich saturated colors, deep blacks, even backlighting, build quality, styling, everything. With 1080p signal and these optics, every movie scene looks like high resolution color print film (in motion). Amazing! I spent two weeks researching LCD TV?s, comparing set-to-set and couldn?t find a better value (paid $1810 + tax) that even came close to the optics this display has. After I unboxed it I ran solid color test screens (black, red, blue, green) for several hours checking saturation, backlighting consistency, and dead pixels. Not a single dead pixel found, which is quite surprising for a typical 1920x1080 LCD. Also very happy with the anti-reflection film, and the thin frame border allowing this TV to fit places that wider sets cannot. I highly recommend this LCD. My wife complains, ?You love that TV more than me!?
4 out of 4 users found this user opinion helpful.
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I really like this LCD a lot
by Tshulthise on July 19, 2007
Pros: Bright vivid picture with no reflections
Cons: No PIP for Broadcast signals, no electronic program guide, sound is just "okay"
Summary: This is our first flat panel TV. I went to several stores and watched the TVs for hours and played with the settings. I was leaning toward Plasma based on ...
Summary: This is our first flat panel TV. I went to several stores and watched the TVs for hours and played with the settings. I was leaning toward Plasma based on the research I had done but after watching the TV's I liked the brightness of the LCDS. I was concerned about glare on a plasma so I put a mirror, about the size of the TV, on the wall and sat on the couch. I was looking right at two windows that get direct sunlight. At that point I realized that there was no way I could use a plasma in my living room due to ambient lighting conditions. It would have been terrible. Although the 4665 had a deeper picture with slightly better color I chose the 4661 due to the glare issue.
The picture looked great on the factory settings but after I tweaked the settings it looked even better. I like vivid color and this TV really delivers in that area. Its very bright even when set to 4 of 10 on the backlight setting. I can't really say anything bad about the picture other than dark scenes aren't so great. Its hard to tell shades of black. Its like there aren't enough shades of black to distinguish edges in dark scenes. That's not a big issue though. I really like the picture a lot. I find myself watching HD programs that I don't even like just because its so vivid and clear.
Once I narrowed it down to LCD's I was torn between 1080p and 720p resolution. I read that you can't really tell much difference between the two... but when I'm watching a 720p signal its definitely not nearly as crisp as a 1080i broadcast. I haven't watched an HD movie side by side on both resolutions so I can't say for sure. I bought the TV to get the best picture I could get so I went with 1080p.
We don't subscribe to cable or satellite so we just use an antenna for local HD broadcasts and an HD DVD player. Broadcast signals look awesome. Digital broadcast is much better than the analog cable signal that my dad gets on his HD TV. And broadcast channels are free. We get all the major networks plus about 10 other stations.
One thing I was disappointed about... this TV doesn't display an electronic programming guide. I bought a Grandtec Tun-5000 digital tuner for my analog TV and it displays an electronic programming guide (EPG) that shows what's on each channel for any day and time you choose. I thought that the Samsung would have this feature for sure since a non-name brand tuner had it. Oh well. Not a big deal but I really like having the EPG.
The sound on the 4661 is okay but not on par with the picture. If you love theatre sound then add a sound system when you buy.
Overall though this is an awesome TV. I would recommend it to anyone.4 out of 4 users found this user opinion helpful.
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A spectacular TV!
by mhapp on July 25, 2007
Pros: Vibrant, sharp colors! Memory for each input's setup.
Cons: Blacks seem to be lacking slightly; some standard def looks terrible on it.
Summary: Like many, I have waited a long time to buy a HD TV and have poured over reviews and did all kinds of research. I was leaning towards plasmas for ...
Summary: Like many, I have waited a long time to buy a HD TV and have poured over reviews and did all kinds of research. I was leaning towards plasmas for a long time but due to the brightness of the room I was going to put it in, I opted for LCD and boy am I happy!
This TV has an outstanding picture, colors are alive and pop, the HD is amazing! Plenty of inputs in the back and each has its own memory so you don't have to worry about changing the set-up based on the source.
Unlike some, though, my blacks aren't super black, but it really isn't noticeable during every day use. I have also noticed that some - but not all - standard def looks terrible, but that's probably due more to the source (cable TV) than the TV itself. But, I find myself watching the high def channels more anyway, after all, that's what I bought it for. (Sports lovers, this thing is a dream! I can't wait for the World Series and Super Bowl!! )
Overall, I couldn't be happier with this TV. Sometimes I find myself surfing channels just to marvel at how great of a picture this thing has.4 out of 5 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Best Deal at Amazon.com
by royappa on September 1, 2007
Pros: don't know at
Cons: don't know yet
Summary: I found this great deal from Amazon.com. They don't offer the best price but heres the deal that I found. You buy Samsung 4661 at $2016 and you ...
Summary: I found this great deal from Amazon.com. They don't offer the best price but heres the deal that I found. You buy Samsung 4661 at $2016 and you scroll down to combo buy. you get a 19" samsung LCd for free. No Tax Free delivery. What a great deal. I have search every freaking site I could possibly think of and no other company offers better deal. well I have also searched for reviews of 4661 and it was pretty damn good. I also went to BB to see actual model and its looking beautiful~ can't wait till I receive this item. they shipped a day after my purchased date !
3 out of 4 users found this user opinion helpful.
Specifications
- Manufacturer: Samsung
- Part number: LN-T4661F
- Description: Samsung's 46" LN-T4661F LCD delivers the full brilliance of HDTV with décor-enhancing style, and industry-leading value. Enjoy the incredible detail of 1080p resolution, the endless color range of 16-bit processing, the finely nuanced tones of a 10000:1 dynamic contrast ratio, and the quick motion of an 8ms response time. With the amazing SRSTruSurroundXT system, full-bodied sound comes from two bottom speakers.
General
- Product type LCD TV
- Diagonal Size 46 in - Widescreen
- Dimensions & Weight Details Panel without stand - 43.5 in x 4.1 in x 27.8 in, Panel with stand - 43.5 in x 12.8 in x 30.2 in
Display
- Technology TFT active matrix
- Resolution 1920 x 1080
- LCD Refresh Rate 60Hz
- LCD Pixel Response Time 8 ms
- Image Aspect Ratio 16:9
- Dynamic Contrast Ratio 10000:1
- Widescreen Modes 16:9, Wide, Zoom, Conventional 4:3
- Color Temperature Control Yes (Warm1/Warm2/Normal/Cool1/Cool2)
- Total Pixels 3,147,264
- V-Sync Rate at Max Res. 60 Hz
- Max V-Sync Rate 75 Hz
- Max H-Sync Rate 60 KHz
- Analog Video Signal S-Video
- V-Chip Control Yes
- Picture Adjustment Custom/Standard/Music/Movie/Speech
TV Tuner
- Digital TV Tuner ATSC
- Analog TV Tuner NTSC
- Multi-channel Preview Picture-in-picture (PIP)
- Stereo Reception System MTS
- Channel Coverage VHF:2-13, UHF:14-69, Cable:1-125
- Secondary Audio Program (SAP) Yes
Video Features
- Video Interface HDMI, S-Video, Component, Composite
- HDTV Ready Yes
- Analog Video Input Signals NTSC
- Input Video Formats 720p, 1080i, 1080p
- Supported Computer Resolutions 640 x 350, 720 x 400, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 480 (VGA), 1024 x 768 (XGA), 800 x 600 (SVGA), 1280 x 1024 (SXGA)
- Parental Channel Lock Yes
- Closed Caption Capability Yes
Audio System
- Speaker(s) 2 x Right/left channel speaker - Built-in - 10 Watt
- Sound Output Mode Stereo
- Surround Mode Yes
- Sound Effects SRS TruSurround XT
- Audio Controls Equalizer, Sound mode
- Equalizer Yes (5-band)
- Output Power / Total 20 Watt
- Additional Features Balance control, Auto volume adjustment
Connections
- Connector Type 2 x HDMI ( 19 pin HDMI Type A ) - Rear, 1 x USB ( 4 pin USB Type A ) - Side, 1 x HDMI ( 19 pin HDMI Type A ) - Side, 1 x Headphones ( Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ) - Side, 1 x S-Video input ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - Side, 1 x Composite video/audio input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Side, 1 x VGA input ( 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) ) - Rear, 1 x Audio line-in ( Mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ) - Rear, 1 x Digital audio output (optical) ( TOSLINK ) - Rear, 2 x Audio line-out ( RCA phono x 2 ) - Rear, 1 x Composite video/audio input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear, 2 x Component video input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - Rear, 1 x S-Video input ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - Rear, 2 x Audio line-in ( RCA phono x 2 ) - Rear
- PC Interface VGA (HD-15)
Memory Card Reader
- USB Port Yes
Remote Control
- Remote Control Universal remote control - Infrared
- Supported Devices VCR, Cable box, DVD player, Satellite TV system
Stands & Mounts
- Stand Included Yes
- Stand Design Tabletop
- Stand Features Swivel
- Flat Panel Mount Interface 200 x 200 mm
Power
- Power Device Power supply - Internal
- Power AC 120 V
- Power Consumption Operational 245 Watt
Miscellaneous
- HDCP Compatible Yes
Dimensions & Weight (Shipping)
- Width (Shipping) 48.4 in
- Depth (Shipping) 16.9 in
- Height (Shipping) 34.8 in
Sustainability
- CNET Labs: Operational power consumption 245.63 Watt
- CNET Labs: Calibrated power consumption 113.52 Watt
- CNET Labs: Power Save Mode power consumption 111.31 Watt
- CNET Labs: Power consumption Stand by / Sleep 0.78 Watt
- CNET Labs: Estimated Annual Energy Cost 53.72 US Dollars
- Greenpeace policy rating (Sept 2009) 6.9
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- ADCOM GFR-700 (31966032)1266.10 - 1999.00
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- URC Universal Remote Professional Line MX-810 (32912039)260.00 - 399.00
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Manufacturer info
- Samsung
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