Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display
Manufacturer: Apple Part number: ME664LL/A
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- The newly redesigned MacBook Pro with Retina Display combines an amazing screen with just enough of the MacBook Air design to feel like a new animal, and to take its place as the best of the current MacBook breed.
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- Reviewed by: Dan Ackerman
- Reviewed on: 06/11/2012
- Updated on:06/13/2012
- Released on: 06/11/2012
The good: The unprecedented high-resolution screen on the new MacBook Pro with Retina Display makes images -- even simple text -- look beautifully clear. Despite a redesigned, lightweight body, the powerful components, including an Nvidia GPU, compare well to recent high-end desktop replacements. Overdue new ports, including USB 3.0 and HDMI, are welcome.
The bad: With a $2,199 entry-level price tag, the MacBook Pro with Retina Display costs more than the typical American mortgage. The lack of onboard Ethernet jack, FireWire, or an optical drive can be inconvenient at times. Despite being thinner and lighter, it's not as travel-friendly as a true ultrabook or MacBook Air.
The bottom line: The newly redesigned MacBook Pro with Retina Display combines an amazing screen with just enough of the MacBook Air design to feel like a new animal, and to take its place as the best of the current MacBook breed.
For the professional, nothing better.
by magicmn717 on June 12, 2012
Pros: Nearly as thin as MacBook Air, thinner than any other laptop I've seen so portability should be great. Also has a battery life to rival any competitor. Take if from a pro video/photo editor. Worth it alone, just for the screen.
Cons: Price is still high. It is a pro model though, and is cheaper than the highest end 15in before it, so I guess I can't complain. Wish Apple would throw in an adapter for the magsafe. Kind of an annoyance to buy adapters for all my old magsafe cables.
Summary: Overall, great laptop. It isn't meant for everyone, though that is exactly who will want it. Everyone. It has pretty much the best specs you could wish for, including ...
Summary: Overall, great laptop. It isn't meant for everyone, though that is exactly who will want it. Everyone. It has pretty much the best specs you could wish for, including that screen. DVD drives are an unnecessary annoyance. I haven't had one built in for 2 years and haven't looked back. I keep a superdrive handy for the occasional use, but why make my laptop thick just to use a disk drive once every year? Pony up the paltry 50 bucks and buy an external one if it's that much of an issue. I do wish I had the option for larger SDD in the base model. You have to upgrade to the higher processor to have the option of the 500 or 768GB drives.
Overall impressed by the portability and ruggedness of such a professional machine. Couldn't be happier.
22 out of 30 users found this user opinion helpful.
Amazing computer with a huge drawback.
by javawolfpack on June 17, 2012
Pros: The retina display (resolution), flash memory, large memory capacity (16GB), size/weight (saves ~2.5lbs over the previous gen 17" macbook pro), unibody case, ivy bridge chipset, & discrete graphics in addition to integrated.
Cons: Forced to max out computer at purchase due to apple making this one of the least upgradable computers ever. Memory is soldered on, battery is glued in, and no details on 3rd party upgrades for storage yet.
Summary: Will start with a general review then get more technical.
The idea of a computer that packs this much power, screen resolution, and battery life and yet be so thin/...
Summary: Will start with a general review then get more technical.@JunkYardTM the Thinkpad x220 is a dual core sandy bridge processor vs the quad core ivy bridge in this computer, can only have a max of 8GB of memory vs starting at 8GB and upgradable to 16GB (at time of purchase)... It also has USB2.0 vs the macbook pro retina (RMBP) has USB3.0, only has integrated Intel HD 3000 graphics vs the RMBP has the Intel HD 4000 & discrete NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory. If all you are looking for is light weight & long battery life then yes the thinkpad x220 isn't a bad deal, but if you want serious performance & usable battery life (as honestly how often are you not going to go 20hours without finding a power outlet?) the RMBP is a better choice, but you have to be willing to pay the premium for the hardware for that boost of performance. Though will say the review above is quite lacking... but if you are going to try and compare another computer to the RMBP you should find one with comparable specs & generation of processor.
The idea of a computer that packs this much power, screen resolution, and battery life and yet be so thin/lightweight is almost hard to believe; however, that's what this computer is. That being said the draw back to this computer is huge in that nothing can be upgraded after you buy. The memory isn't removable and is propriety from the views inside the case I've seen; however, even the 8GB option is overkill for most people. But being forced to pay for 16GB from the start and at a premium compared to the cost of 16GB laptop memory.
Additionally, the battery appears to be bonded to the case, which makes replacing it difficult too. And considering how long macs last it'd be nice if the battery was replaceable down the road when it no longer holds a charge.
The only part that appears to have hope of a third party replacement is the flash storage; however, the amounts apple offers aren't unreasonable at the costs so probably not a likely aftermarket upgrade need here anyway. I am frustrated a bit personally that I am forced to upgrade to 512GB of flash storage to upgrade my processor, as I personally would prefer to get the faster processors without having to pay for additional storage.
Overall, as long as you can pay the premium to fully upgrade the RAM and pay for the additional storage for faster processors the pros outweigh this huge drawback.
Here on will be a highly technical review:
I previously have reviewed the 2010 macbook pro when apple moved to the core i7 technology (http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/apple-macbook-pro-spring/4864-3121_7-34058852-1.html) and got quite a bit of feedback appreciating the review of a computer from the perspective of someone who understands the pros of the hardware as well as has cause to fully make use of it. To that end will be doing similar analysis of this refresh of the macbook pro w/ the retina display.
Processor: For this generation (June 2012 update) of macbook pro/macbook air Apple has moved to the third generation Intel core i7 known as Ivy Bridge. You might hear the name Ivy Bridge thrown around but wonder why its a big deal. Ivy Bridge moves to a new 22nm fabrication technology from the previous generation (Sandy Bridge)'s 32nm technology. This is a measurement for the size of the transistors used in the chip.
A smaller transistor size offers the ability to fit more transistors onto the chip, which means the chip can do more in the same or a fraction of the space the previous generation did. Additionally, smaller transistors also require less energy to drive them, which means a significant savings in power.
Ivy Bridge in addition to a smaller transistor size and better power savings also includes a significant improvement on the integrated graphics that Intel has begun providing on their processors. This integrated graphics means that computers no longer need discrete graphics cards to drive graphics. This is seen in the Macbook Air that only uses this for its graphics and means Ivy Bridge provides better graphics on the newest Macbook Airs. For the Macbook Pros and this retina Macbook Pro it means that unless you are doing something which needs significant graphics processing that all the graphics can be done on the processor at a significant power savings.
Ivy Bridge also continues to improve on the core i7 architecture and provide better virtualization, multi-thread performance, etc. This means VM's run smoother and video processing will take less time. Additionally, you can run more applications without it placing a lot of strain on the processor.
Flash Storage: The biggest benefit of the Macbook Pro Retina is that it forces anyone who purchases it to move to a form of flash storage. Modern processors have less of an impact in the performance then they used to do as the slowest thing in the pipeline of executing, reading, and writing data is the hard drive in today's computers. The cache sizes and memory sizes keep increasing to try and help this but the biggest increase in performance comes when the time to read data from the hard drive isn't much longer than going to memory. This is the same reason windows computers began allowing you to dedicate a flash memory stick as temporary page file storage as this would reduce the time going to a HDD to retrieve data when the flash storage was at least 4X faster. The flash storage in the macbook pro retina provides the highest throughput comparable or faster to all the 6Gbps SATA III SSDs I've looked at on the market.
Memory: The Macbook Pro Retina makes use of DDR3L this spec provides DDR3 memory speeds but at a lower voltage, which means another power savings. I will admit the fact I'm forced to choose 8 or 16GB of memory from the start is frustrating; however, my current 17" macbook pro (2010) only has 8GB of RAM, with flash storage & the first gen core i7 I haven't managed to place a load on it yet that it can't handle including running 3VMs at the same time. As such think the upgrade to 16GB for most users wouldn't be noticeable in the performance gain they'd observe. But for video editors being able to load most of their project into memory would have a huge boost of improvement.
Graphics: The only con that has been mentioned by a few reviewers is the fact that the discrete graphics included in addition to the integrated graphics on the Ivy Bridge processor are only mid level graphics. I can understand the feeling that for such a capable machine not having the highest end graphic cards in it seems like a poor decision. The thing to note here is that apple designs their computers to maximize performance while not sacrificing battery life. They want a laptop to actually be portable and not fixed to a power cord. As such using the latest generation of NVIDIA Kepler based chips that provide significant power savings while still providing a 60% improvement over the previous generation of macbook pros seems like a good design decision over opting for a more powerful graphics chipset that doesn't provide the power savings.
I think the biggest complaint I saw was that someone couldn't get more than 27FPS on diablo III with the graphics maxed out. Honestly if you wanted the highest end graphics for gaming performance you should invest in a gaming computer with 2-4 SLI graphics. While you're at it build your own on EVGA's Classified SR-X motherboard.
When I reviewed the 2010 macbook pro I criticized the fact that only the 17" had the ExpressCard/34 slot. I thought the option for expansion via the card slot made more sense than an integrated SD Card Slot. But now am of the opinion that the integrated SD Card slot is a great feature and am glad to see that the macbook pro retina has one.
The two thunderbolt connectors seems like a waste, especially with so few storage devices available to make use of it. And the ones that do are unreasonably expensive. Not to mention that there aren't storage devices that support thunderbolt yet that can even begin to saturate the thunderbolt capabilities. Not that I don't think its a bad concept.
The move to USB 3.0 is more usable currently, and the macbook pro retina does include two USB3.0 ports.
I think the weirdest update, yet understandable, is the move to a new magsafe standard magsafe2. This means that if you are like me and have more than one magsafe power cord that would still be compatible wattage wise you'd have to buy an adapter to make use of it or upgrade your power cords. This move is understandable and only seen on the macbook air & macbook pro retina in the 2012 update as it provides the magsafe functionality in a thinner format, which means the computers can get even thinner, which improves their portability.
Summary: Regardless of the drawbacks this new revision to the macbook pro provides a very capable laptop in a very portable form. And no matter which configuration you get for most users this laptop will be overkill in terms of performance.
Updated on Jul 9, 2012
9 out of 11 users found this user opinion helpful.
Outstanding genre-bending design, breakthrough display
by sinicle on June 13, 2012
Pros: Astounding display, state of the art architecture, beautiful design.
Cons: Non-user upgradeable RAM. Flash storage will only be able to be upgraded when 3rd-party solutions hit the market.
Summary: Overall, there is no better Pro-level notebook on the market. Sure, you can get more for your money if you go Windows, but that is not the purpose of this ...
Summary: Overall, there is no better Pro-level notebook on the market. Sure, you can get more for your money if you go Windows, but that is not the purpose of this incredible machine.
9 out of 14 users found this user opinion helpful.
It's a portable professional laptop (focus on portable)
by NotARandomGuy on June 14, 2012
Pros: The Awesome screen , the light weight , the battery life , Thunderbolt ports , the Amazing design .
Cons: The lack of Ehernet adapter , needs more USBs.
Summary: Amazing laptop, espasially if u want to compare with other similar laptops because of the price ( because if u want a laptop with similar specs you'll pay at least ...
Summary: Amazing laptop, espasially if u want to compare with other similar laptops because of the price ( because if u want a laptop with similar specs you'll pay at least 1800$ for a low quality 8.5 pound 4 hour of battery life laptop) . But the lack of Ethernet adapter And the user inaccessibility and the fact that there are only 2 USB entrances might cause inconvenience.
6 out of 10 users found this user opinion helpful.
I'm a long-time apple user, image retention a let down
by Mathieu1322 on September 5, 2012
Pros: The screen is absolutely stunning
I LOVE how zippy it is with the flash memory
Ooodles of power for everyday needs
Probably the best laptop ever made
Cons: The ONLY thing keeping this from being a glowing 5-star review is the fact that many people, (including myself) are having a lot of problems with Image Retention on the new screens.
Summary: I love apple products, and my whole line-up of technology has been apple ever since I started university. My old white macbook is still running strong from 2006, and I'...
Summary: I love apple products, and my whole line-up of technology has been apple ever since I started university. My old white macbook is still running strong from 2006, and I'm still impressed by its ability to get stuff done. That being said, I was very excited to finally upgrade to the new Retina Display. Within 2 hours of opening it I began to experience problems with my screen. My specific problem which caused me to return it to the store was the appearance of a bright thick line of pink stuck pixels running vertically down the center of the screen. Many other people are having issues with Image Retention with LG manufactured screens. If you don't believe me, come read about it one the applecare forums here:
I really want to purchase another Retina Display, and will definitely do so as soon as this issue is resolved. Just wanted to bring awareness to other people that might not know, or have LG monitors that may begin to act up in the near future.
Still love apple, and can't wait until they fix this widespread problem.
5 out of 9 users found this user opinion helpful.
Top of the line.
by mrsvictoria on November 23, 2012
Pros: It's a great computer. The power is really impressive, for a laptop. The video, audio and screen are all top notch.
Cons: The price ! Two grand is a ton of money for a computer.
2 out of 2 users found this user opinion helpful.
Rest assured, you get what you pay for...
by robstak on July 24, 2012
Pros: Unadulterated gadget porn. The screen can only truly be appreciated after seeing it. Sturdy. Blazing fast. Whisper quiet. HDMI out.
Cons: Obviously, the price. It is rather hefty.
Summary: This is the *it* gadget for a reason. I had to wait 4 wks for mine to ship and this is my first mac. I. AM. BLOWN. AWAY. Just go ...
Summary: This is the *it* gadget for a reason. I had to wait 4 wks for mine to ship and this is my first mac. I. AM. BLOWN. AWAY. Just go to an Apple store and play with one and you'll see what I'm saying.
Couple of things: there is no way this computer gets 1 star reviews. I've read them and they are either trolls or don't understand what they are talking about. I'm no mac fanboi, I just hate trolls.
Other things of note that don't really effect me:
- no ethernet (dongle)
- 2 thunderbolt + hdmi means you can run FOUR displays if you wanted to.
- Battery life is good, but at full brightness and regular use I get about 5 hours on a charge. imo 10 would be nice!
- There's no Kensington Lock hole. so beware at coffee houses!
- You get free upgrade to OSX mountain lion.
It's not cheap, but it's the best out there. Don't listen to the haters.
2 out of 2 users found this user opinion helpful.
This is by far the best computer I've owned!
by pixelhipo on October 1, 2012
Pros: - Long Battery Life
- Retina Display
- Doesn't get hot
- Very thin
- Very powerful
- High resolution, so I can fit multiple windows in the same space
Cons: - Price, I think it's worth it though
- You can't upgrade the RAM or HD yourself
- Can't replace the battery yourself
- Doesn't have a hard drive, but dont' use it anyway
- Missing one more USB port
- No ethernet port
Summary: Nothing is perfect, but with the portability and power combined, I think this is an amazing laptop for the type of work I do. I definitely think it's a ...
Summary: Nothing is perfect, but with the portability and power combined, I think this is an amazing laptop for the type of work I do. I definitely think it's a bit pricey for the normal user, but for professionals that need a lot of power and quality, I think it's right on the money!
I've owned Sony, HP, Acer, Dell and all the Apple line of computers and I've very happy with this one. I'm a developer/designer and work on high res files as well as doing development running a number of different programs while surfing the net and the MacBook Pro does this all with ease. I ended up getting the the 750GB SSD with 16GB RAM, just because I couldn't add more myself, since it's all soldered together. The first thing I notice is the display, it's incredible! The battery life was the 2nd, no matter if I'm working, watching video's, it's got a long battery life. The other thing I noticed, usually when I work on the couch, is it doesn't get hot at all. I had buyers remore when I dropped 4k on it, but now I feel pretty happy. Definitely highly recommend it!
2 out of 3 users found this user opinion helpful.
Best MacBook Ever!
by jjinalisoviejo on July 4, 2012
Pros: Screen: Simply amazing & must be used for 48 hours to fully appreciate it
Form factor: Thin, light, but study
Performance: Lighting fast!
Wi-Fi: Strong connectivity
Cons: New mag safe: The connection is not as strong as its predecessor and thus easily falls off when using the MacBook while charging.
Not upgradeable: I don't fully understand Apple's reasoning behind such a decision.
Summary: This is my 3rd MacBook Pro (late 2008 13" & 2010 15"). I loved my prior MacBook Pros and used them everyday. This MacBook is simply the very best machine ...
Summary: This is my 3rd MacBook Pro (late 2008 13" & 2010 15"). I loved my prior MacBook Pros and used them everyday. This MacBook is simply the very best machine I have ever owned. It is about the same weight as my 13" MacBook with a 15" screen. It feels great to use, super fast, and the amazing screen is why I upgraded. It is well worth the money. Remember, MacBook Pros hold their values. I have been able to sell my prior MacBooks for around 60% of their original value several years later. If I had children, I would simply pass them onto them since MacBooks are made to last for many years (unlike their PC counterparts).How do you write a "review" if you don't own it? Al the reasons you gave for not purchasing are 100% not accurate.
I gave this 4.5 stars. I had to penalize Apple for making this machine non-upgradeable. But otherwise, it is near perfection.
Updated on Jul 4, 2012
2 out of 3 users found this user opinion helpful.
Apple redefines the laptop category!
by mikedgolf40505 on July 3, 2012
Pros: Speed, Specs, Display, Weight, Thinness
Cons: Price, but that will come down as the price of SSDs come down.
Summary: First let me state that I am by no means an Apple fanboy; I own Android phones and would own a Windows Phone before an iPhone. That being said, I ...
Summary: First let me state that I am by no means an Apple fanboy; I own Android phones and would own a Windows Phone before an iPhone. That being said, I do love my Macs. My last Mac was a 15" MBP 2.93 Core2Duo 8GB of Ram, 320 GB 7200 RPM HD, and 512 MB NVDIA Switchable graphics. That was the best laptop that I had ever owned and this one blows that one away by a country mile. First my specs, 15" MBP with Retina Display, 16GB Ram, 2.3 Corei7, 256 SSD, 1GB NVDIA. This Mac boots in 10-12 seconds, unbelievable. Shutdown is back to instantaneous, first time since Leopard. Every application is snappier and faster, no comparison. WI-FI seems to run more consistent. The actual body is just beyond compare. Extremely light, and thin. Like a 15" MacBook Air without the hardware compromises. The Retina display is as advertised. Not sure what the complaints I am reading about some apps looking bad on the new display because they are not ready for the newer resolution. Keep it set at "Scaled for Retina Display" and things are fine. The speakers are also better than on my previous MBP. This unit also runs cooler than any of my other 3 previous Mac laptops. Apple had better keep an I on price though, Windows will be nipping on it's heels next year I am sure, with likely made and speced units at lower prices. Using my wife's education discount, I was able to get mine for $2179.One last con. Apple care needs to cover accidental damage like every other computer company; come on Apple get with it!
Updated on Jul 4, 2012
1 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
- Manufacturer: Apple
- Part number: ME664LL/A
- Description: They wanted this MacBook Pro to have a screen as vivid as your imagination. A screen where everything you see is remarkably vibrant, detailed, and sharp. What they created was the world's high-resolution notebook display - and their most jaw-dropping Retina display yet. When you pack over 5-million pixels into a 15.4-inch display, the results are positively stunning. The pixel density is so high, your eyes can't discern individual pixels. Images take on a high level of realism and text is pin sharp. And with a 2880-by-1800 resolution, you can see more of your high-resolution images onscreen with pixel-for-pixel accuracy. So your best ideas can become your best work. The Retina display reduces glare while maintaining incredible color and quality. In fact, it has a 29-percent higher contrast ratio than a standard MacBook Pro display. Blacks are blacker. Whites are whiter. And everything in between is rich and vibrant. IPS technology gives you a wide, 178-degree view of everything on the screen, so you'll see the difference at practically any angle. And you're going to love what you see. When your goal is to build the high-performance notebook of the future, you begin at its foundation. For this MacBook Pro, that foundation was flash. Because when you build a notebook around an all-flash architecture, not only is everything more durable, reliable, and battery efficient - everything is fast. Really, really fast. You haven't heard it all until you've heard the speakers inside the MacBook Pro. For something so thin and light, the sound is huge. And with a wide dynamic range, optimal balance, and a crisp, expressive quality, these speakers might sound too good to be true. That's because they labored painstakingly over the design to maximize the quality of every decibel you hear.
- Packaged Quantity 1
- System Type Notebook
- Operating System Apple OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion
- Notebook type Ultrathin
Processor / Chipset
- CPU Intel 3rd Gen Core i7 2.3 GHz,
- Max Turbo Speed 3.4 GHz
- Number of Cores Quad-Core
- Cache L3 cache - 6 MB
- 64-bit Computing Yes
- Features Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0,
Integrated memory controller,
- RAM 8 GB,
( Provided memory is soldered )
- Max RAM Supported 16 GB
- Technology DDR3L SDRAM
- Speed 1600 MHz
- Floppy Drive None
- Hard Drive 256 GB,
- Optical Drive None
- Hard drive type Solid state
- Min Operating Temperature 50 °F
- Max Operating Temperature 95 °F
- Humidity Range Operating 0 - 90% (non-condensing)
- Max Altitude Operating 10000 ft
- Type 15.6 in,
- LCD Backlight Technology LED backlight
- Max Resolution 2880 x 1800
- Widescreen Yes
Audio & Video
- Multi-GPU Configuration 1 single GPU card / integrated GPU
- Graphics Processor NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M / Intel HD Graphics 4000 - 1 GB GDDR5 SDRAM
- Camera Yes
- Capture Resolutions 1280 x 720
- Sound Stereo speakers , Microphone
- Type Backlit keyboard,
- Keyboard Layout English
- Features Ambient light sensor,
- Wireless 802.11n,
- Technology Lithium polymer
- Installed Qty 1
- Capacity 95 Wh
- Run Time 7 hour(s)
- Voltage Required AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
- Output 85 Watt
Connections & Expansion
- Slots 1 x SDXC card slot
- Interfaces 2 x USB 3.0,
2 x Thunderbolt,
- Interfaces 3 x USB - USB,
1 x HDMI - HDMI,
- Memory Card Reader Card reader ( SDHC Memory Card ),
( SDXC Memory Card ),
( SD Memory Card )
- Software Included Apple iCal,
Drivers & Utilities,
Apple Address Book,
Apple Mac App Store,
Apple Mission Control,
Apple Time Machine,
Apple Quick Look,
Apple Mac OS X Mail,
Apple Auto Save,
- Case Material Aluminum
- Cables Included Power cable ( 1 pcs.)
- Localization English / United States
Dimensions & Weight
- Width 14.1 in
- Depth 9.7 in
- Height 0.7 in
- Weight 4.46 lbs
- Service & Support 1 year warranty
- Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 1 year,
Technical support - Phone consulting - 90 days
- ENERGY STAR Qualified Yes
- EPEAT Compliant EPEAT Gold
- Greenpeace policy rating (Nov 2011) 4.6
- Greenpeace policy rating (Nov 2012) 4.5
Specs: Intel 3rd Gen Core i7 2.3 GHz ( Quad-Core ),
( 3.4 GHz ),
Apple OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion,
15.6 in TFT active matrix,
2880 x 1800,
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M / Intel HD Graphics 4000,
Specs: Intel Core i7 2.6 GHz ( 3.6 GHz ) ( Quad-Core ),
Apple OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion,
15.4 in IPS,
2880 x 1800,
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M / Intel HD Graphics 4000,
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