Intel Core i7-965 Extreme Edition
Manufacturer: Intel Corp. Part number: BX80601965
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- Thanks to an expensive new motherboard requirement, Intel's new Core i7 desktop processors will remain enthusiast and professional-level parts until more affordable complementary hardware comes out later next year. Speed never comes cheap, however, and if you're willing to spend for it now, you'll find yourself in possession of the fastest CPU on the market.
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CNET editors' review
Intel Core i7-965 Extreme Edition price range: $1,110.95 - $1,194.99
- Reviewed by: Rich Brown
- Reviewed on: 11/03/2008
- Released on: 11/02/2008
The good: Fastest high-end desktop CPU; supporting motherboard supports both graphics card vendors' multicard technologies.
The bad: Requires an expensive new motherboard; chipset needs three memory sticks for maximum efficiency.
The bottom line: Thanks to an expensive new motherboard requirement, Intel's new Core i7 desktop processors will remain enthusiast and professional-level parts until more affordable complementary hardware comes out later next year. Speed never comes cheap, however, and if you're willing to spend for it now, you'll find yourself in possession of the fastest CPU on the market.
In the last few months you may have seen previews and news stories regarding Intel's new Core i7 desktop processor family, formerly known as Nehalem. Today, we're able to publish our impressions of Intel's new chip and ultimately its new platform. We've selected the flagship, $999 Core i7-965 Extreme Edition CPU to represent the Core i7 family, which at launch later this month will include three other processors, starting at $284. These new chips all require a new chipset, which will only exist at first by way of a very expensive new motherboard. We don't expect mainstream users will adopt Core i7 in any variation at first, at least until the motherboard prices come down. But the well-heeled performance hounds who do make the leap will enjoy the fastest consumer CPUs on the market.
Core i7 has enough architecture changes to require a brand new connection design between the chip and the motherboard. This is no small change, because Intel has stuck with the LGA775 (land grid array) chip socket since the days of Pentium 4. The new socket design, LGA1366, will not accept any older Intel CPUs, nor will Core i7 work on any older motherboards.

Unlike a new socket design, new chipsets aren't uncommon with updated Intel CPUs. The last three Extreme Edition chips Intel has launched each required its own new motherboard circuitry, and Core i7 is no different. Intel's new Core i7-supporting X58 chipset will only appear in very high-end boards. We conducted this review with the Intel Extreme Motherboard DX58SO board, and we've already reported on a new X58 board from Asus. Expect Gigabyte, MSI, and Intel's other typical board partners to introduce their own new X58 boards, and we expect prices will stay at or around the $300 mark. For this reason, Core i7 will remain an enthusiast CPU until Intel introduces a more moderate, mass consumption-friendly Core i7-compatible chipset.
Faster memory access
The reason for this platform shift has to do in part with a fundamental design change in Intel's CPU architecture. As has long been rumored, Intel has finally adopted an integrated memory controller into its Core i7 CPUs. What this means is that instead of the CPU communicating with a separate controller on the motherboard before it can talk to the system memory, Core i7 can save a step, and essentially receive data from the system RAM directly.

AMD adopted this integrated controller strategy in the early days of its Athlon dual-core processors, and it was one of the factors that led them to dominate the competing Intel Pentium D CPUs of that generation. Through superior design since then, Intel has regained its performance lead over AMD, and we suspect that by adding the on-chip memory controller to Core i7, Intel has only made it more difficult for AMD to find a design advantage moving forward.
A potential complication here is that the new memory controller has three channels to the RAM. That means that unlike most desktop setups, which involve two or four memory sticks, Core i7 systems will want memory sticks in multiples of three. Hence why Intel shipped our test system with only 3GB of RAM (we got creative with a 2x1GB, 1x2GB RAM configuration, for 4GB total for testing), and why in high-end PCs that use the new X58 platform, 3GB, 6GB, and 12GB configurations will be common. X58 will also only support DDR3 RAM, whose prices have thankfully come down over the past year.
Four cores, sometimes eight
If you've followed Intel's chips designs over the years, the term "Hyperthreading" shouldn't be unfamiliar. This technology lets Intel simulate more processing threads on top of its old dual-core Pentium 4 chips. It abandoned that strategy with the Core 2 family, but Intel has resurrected it with Core i7, and it's why you'll see eight processing threads when you bring up Windows' system performance screen. Few day-to-day programs will benefit from Hyperthreading, and it's more of a situational benefit for processing reliability and the scant few applications that can actually support so many threads. Core i7 will eventually hit eight native cores on a single CPU, or 16 processing streams with Hyperthreading, but Intel has not made it clear when that will happen. It may be worth the wait, if you know you'll need that much parallelism, but few consumers will.
Multigraphics agnostic
Another significant change with the Core i7/X58 landscape had to do with graphics cards. Intel's Skulltrail platform of last year supported both standards as well, but the specialized CPUs that made the board worthwhile were prohibitively expensive. With the X58 chipset, yes, it comes on an expensive motherboard, but you can purchase a Core i7 chip to go with it for less than $300. The Core 2 Extreme QX9775 Skulltrail CPU started at $1,500. Gamers who stay current with graphics cards should be especially happy with this flexibility, as changing 3D card vendors will no longer require a wholesale system rebuild.
We tested both SLI and Crossfire setups on our Core i7 test bed and found both worked without trouble, requiring nothing more than installing the hardware and appropriate graphics-driver software as you would normally. As for their performance, AMD has issued a series of so-called "hot-fix" drivers to improve compatibility and frame rates of its cards with various PC games, which suggests that its software still needs to work out a few kinks on X58. Nvidia has not been shy to point out this fact (its beta drivers have worked fine), but we also find it telling that all three of the high-priced Core i7 gaming desktops we're currently reviewing come with multicard AMD configurations.
A quicker path
Finally, the last major change with Core i7 is the introduction of what Intel's calling the QuickPath Interconnect (QPI). Essentially this is the Intel version of AMD's HyperTransport interface between the CPU and the chipset. The major impact of the QPI for consumers is that Intel uses different QPI ratings to distinguish the Core i7-965 Extreme Edition from the non-Extreme Core i7 chips. Rated by Gigatransfers per second (Gigatransfers, or GT, refers to a million transfers of data), the Extreme Edition comes in at 6.4GT/sec, where the non-Extreme versions handle only 4.8GT/sec. In addition to that speed advantage, Intel also ships the Extreme version with an unlocked clock multiplier, which means it can be overclocked. The standard Core i7's will have to remain at their shipping speeds.
| Intel Core i7-965 Extreme Edition | Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 | |
| Est. cost | $999 | $999 |
| Manufacturing process | 45 nanometer | 45 nanometer |
| Transistors | 731 million | 820 million |
| Clock speed | 3.2GHz | 3.0Ghz |
| L2 Cache | 256kb/core | 2 x 6MB |
| L3 cache | 8MB | 2MB |
| Front side bus | NA | 1,333MHz |
| TDP | 130 watts | 130 watts |
To put the Core i7-965 Extreme Edition in perspective, we compared it with the year-old
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| Rendering multiple CPUs | Rendering single CPU |
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The Core i7 chip is faster than the QX9650 on every test, but we were most impressed by the CineBench multicore test and the Far Cry 2 benchmark, where Intel's new CPU established a sizable performance advantage. Gamers and digital-media editors may likely have assumed that Core i7 is worth their attention. As we can see from our testing, any such assumption is clearly justified.
We should add that the Core 2 Extreme QX9650 was actually surpassed earlier by the Core 2 Extreme QX9770, a $1,500 CPU that uses Intel's X48 chipset. Time constraints prevented us from testing that CPU as well, but based on early results from PC World Greece (via Engadget), it appears that Core i7 trounces that chip as well. We expect the Web will flood with reviews of the entire Core i7 family at the same time that this review launches. We encourage anyone considering a new CPU purchase to read as much coverage as possible to make the most informed buying decision. Any CPU with a $999 price tag merits careful consideration.
Power consumption
You'll note from our power-consumption tests that the Core i7 consumes almost the exact same amount of energy both at idle and while under load. We didn't expect major gains here, as each chip uses the same 45 nanometer process, runs at a similar clock speed, and with roughly the same number of transistors. Typically Intel gains power efficiency with chips introduced in a "tock" year, which involves a more efficient design of the chips from a "tick" year such as these. The Core i7-965 Extreme may have improved its relative power usage, in that it uses fewer transistors to do more work and at faster clock speeds than the older Core 2 Extreme chips. But anyone building a system with this new processor should expect to need an equivalently beefy power supply, especially if you intend to add multiple graphics cards and hard drives.
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System configurations:
Intel Core i7-956 Extreme Edition
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit; Intel DX58SO motherboard 4GB Kingston 1,066MHz DDR3 SDRAM; 1GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 graphics card; 74GB Western Digital 10,000 rpm hard drive
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit; Asus Maximus Formula Special Edition motherboard; 4GB 800MHz DDR2 SDRAM; 1GB Nvidia GeForce GTX280; 74GB Western Digital 10,000 rpm hard drive
User reviews
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Bunk review?
by 663chevy on November 10, 2008
Pros: I do no know.
Cons: I do no know.
Summary: Am I wrong in saying that the benchmark tests are skewed here since one was using ddr3 and one using ddr2-800 on an old motherboard?
Summary: Am I wrong in saying that the benchmark tests are skewed here since one was using ddr3 and one using ddr2-800 on an old motherboard?
3 out of 4 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Holds its own against Skulltrail, a True Complement
by Catalina588 on November 4, 2008
Pros: The 965 competes favorably with Skulltrail: comparable overall performance; much quieter even with dual 4870x2's; much lower idle power; easy to overclock; much lower cost when available. Turbo is great for single threaded apps.
Cons: Mixed reviews on gaming. See Tom's Hardware gaming review for the details. Expect drivers to improve. Even so, Extreme 965 scales gaming frame rates from 1-4 GPUs very well.
Summary: I'm thinking about putting the i7-965 in the living room: quiet enough for home theater but powerful enough for high-end gaming. Would never consider doing that with noisy Skulltrail....
Summary: I'm thinking about putting the i7-965 in the living room: quiet enough for home theater but powerful enough for high-end gaming. Would never consider doing that with noisy Skulltrail.
Unlocked Turbo mode makes it easy to do basic overclocking. I got 4 GHz with stock cooler (briefly); stable at 3.8 GHz and stock cooler.
This is the business/technical workstation of choice for 2009. I expect the i7-965 Extreme Edition to end up in the Top 10 at Rosetta in protein folding against 8 and 8 core Xeons.
Since you're spending a bundle anyway, definitely check out the Intel solid-state disks. Phenomenal read speeds under Vista and marked boot-up time improvements.
So, I'm putting Skulltrail out to pasture and moving the Core i7-965 Extreme Edition into the "daily driver" slot under my desk. This system has earned its stripes.1 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
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How I wish I had it
by clrgj2 on November 3, 2008
Pros: Just think, crysis would run like tetris on this baby!
Cons: Too expensive for me to buy. I would have to use up a whole month of money from my part time job.
Summary: If it was 300 dollars or lower, I would hop into my car and speed to Bestbuy and grab it with a big stupid smile on my face.
Summary: If it was 300 dollars or lower, I would hop into my car and speed to Bestbuy and grab it with a big stupid smile on my face.
1 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Do we have a faster O/S ?
by someolboy on November 9, 2009
Pros: New technology ... good
Cons: high end cost...
Summary: If you can't make windows operating systems any more efficient, or run faster, then why bother?
It doesn't matter how fast and how powerful your computer is... you ...Summary: If you can't make windows operating systems any more efficient, or run faster, then why bother?
It doesn't matter how fast and how powerful your computer is... you still have to wait for windows to start up ! -
I7 920 vs 965xe
by hamsterbytes54 on April 24, 2009
Pros: it's new and has possibilities not explored yet
Cons: 965xe is barely faster than 920 overclocked even when it is overclocked.
Summary: at less than 300 dollars the 920 is btter processor than the 965 when it is overclocked since it is neck to neck in speed an oc 965. faster than ...
Summary: at less than 300 dollars the 920 is btter processor than the 965 when it is overclocked since it is neck to neck in speed an oc 965. faster than the raw 965xe.
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Wish I had it
by pithenumber on December 13, 2008
Pros: insanely fast
Cons: built the rig for someone else
Summary: If you have the money, BUY IT
Summary: If you have the money, BUY IT
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Reviewer should have used 3 matching DIMMs
by seier on November 3, 2008
Pros: Actual performance will be higher when people use three matching DIMMS.
Cons: Whoever did this review should have used three madding DDR3 DIMMS to take proper advantage of DDR3 so any performance numbers must be taken with a considerable grain of salt.
Summary: Another shweet processor from Intel.
Summary: Another shweet processor from Intel.
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Core i7. what the......
by HVBI on November 16, 2008
Pros: Maybe, just maybe a commercial company can benifit if rendering several movies or commericals a day.
Cons: Price is way to high for what you get. It is terrible on games for the price. I can get an over clocked q6600 to preform better. The cost premium is twice what I would pay for core 2 when you add cost of ram, mobo etc.
Summary: Lets face it, how many of you really sit in front of the computer and wait for a 2 hour video to render? Okay two of you raised your hand. ...
Summary: Lets face it, how many of you really sit in front of the computer and wait for a 2 hour video to render? Okay two of you raised your hand. Get a life. For the rest of us, I don't think so. So will you wait 1:40 for a i7 to do the same task. Nope! You will walk away and come back later. So why is it that big of a deal to have a cpu take 20 min. off a 2 hour render. Step out side and take a short walk. You will save hundreds. This cpu is not a gamers friend either. Unless you want to spend 1000's for the best i7 cpu and only match a cpu that you could have paid 100's less for. I just don't see any reason to spend so much for so little. I will wait until the industry shows us a good reason to upgrade. I would rather buy a q9550, good ram and mobo for far less money. With the extra 600 dollar savings I could buy some nice toys. Come on AMD here is your chance to kick them where it hurts.
1 out of 3 users found this user opinion helpful.
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What does it really mean though?
by Interpolnyc on November 4, 2008
Pros: The fact that computers are moving forward, and have not become 'static' (no pun intended). But the realization that they are Dynamic and ever evolving.
Cons: Price and the fact that you need an entirely new set up to run it.
Summary: It goes without saying that computers and technology are constantly changing, this is a great example of such change. Incremental upgrades are important, but a total reinvention, of sorts, is ...
Summary: It goes without saying that computers and technology are constantly changing, this is a great example of such change. Incremental upgrades are important, but a total reinvention, of sorts, is often necessary. Often people seem to complain that its too expensive, its too ect., the point is, this is the cutting edge. You pay more for a brand new car than you would for a used one. Same principle.
I marvel at the amount that things have changed, it was what 25 or 30 years ago when the apple // came out, and basically put computers on the map. Now we have Wallie and countless other computer generated movies and games. This is just one more step, and from here who knows what another 25 or 30 years hold.0 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
Specifications
- Manufacturer: Intel Corp.
- Part number: BX80601965
- Description: Conquer the world of extreme gaming with the fastest performing processor on the planet: the Intel Core i7 processor Extreme Edition. With faster, intelligent multi-core technology that accelerates performance to match your workload, it delivers an incredible breakthrough in gaming performance. But performance doesn't stop at gaming. You'll multitask 25 percent faster and unleash incredible digital media creation with up to 79 percent faster video encoding and up to 46 percent faster image rendering, plus incredible performance for photo retouching and editing. In fact, you'll experience maximum performance for whatever you do, thanks to the combination of Intel Turbo Boost technology and Intel Hyper-Threading technology (Intel HT technology), which activates full processing power exactly where and when you need it most.
General
- Product Type Processor
Processor
- Type Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition I7-965
- Multi-Core processor technology Quad-Core
- 64-bit processor Yes
- Processor Qty 1
- Processor number I7-965
- Processor socket LGA1366 Socket
- Clock speed 3.2 GHz
- Processor Manufacturing Process 45 nm
- Processor / Thermal Specification 67.9 °C
- Architecture Features Intel 64 Technology, Demand Based Switching, Intel Thermal Monitor 2, Enhanced Halt State (C1E), Hyper-Threading Technology, Enhanced SpeedStep technology, Execute Disable Bit capability, Intel Virtualization Technology
- Architecture Features Intel 64 Technology, Demand Based Switching, Intel Thermal Monitor 2, Enhanced Halt State (C1E), Hyper-Threading Technology, Enhanced SpeedStep technology, Execute Disable Bit capability, Intel Virtualization Technology
- Thermal Design Power 130 W
- Form Factor:Packaging Type FC-LGA8
Cache Memory
- Installed Size L3 cache - 8 MB
Expansion / Connectivity
- Expansion Slots Total (Free) None
- Compatible Slots 1 x Processor - LGA1366 Socket
Miscellaneous
- Package Type Intel Boxed
Manufacturer Warranty
- Service & support type 3 years warranty
- Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 3 years
Memory
- Cache technology Advanced Smart Cache
Warranty
- Service / Support Details Limited warranty 3 years
Accessories
- ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33515953)289.99 - 398.95
- ASUS Rampage II Extreme Republic of Gamers - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33430726)359.99 - 469.95
- MSI X58 Pro-E - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33648171)187.11 - 261.99
- Intel DX58SO Desktop Motherboard (33414210)244.99 - 300.58
- Intel Desktop Board DX58SO Extreme Series - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33421488)2301.99 - 2459.99
- Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33483096)187.75 - 220.86
- ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33483074)339.00 - 371.99
- ASUS P6T WS Professional - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33440021)299.00 - 353.27
- ASUS P6T SE - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33637772)204.28 - 231.99
- Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 - motherboard - ATX - iX58 (33392178)268.99 - 339.99
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