Philips RC9800i
Manufacturer: Philips Consumer Electronics Part number: RC9800i
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- The attractive, feature-rich Philips RC9800i is one of the first universal remotes to incorporate Wi-Fi wireless networking--but we hope some of its more annoying shortcomings will be improved upon with future firmware upgrades.
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CNET editors' review
Philips RC9800i price range: $400.00
- Reviewed by: David Carnoy
- Edited by: John P. Falcone
- Reviewed on: 04/27/2006
- Released on: 04/15/2005
The good: The Philips RC9800i is a sleek universal remote with a sharp, easy-to-read, color touch screen. Its built-in Wi-Fi wireless networking can be used to stream music from any PC to your home stereo, as well as images to the remote itself. Another plus is that the remote's firmware is upgradable via a built-in USB port, and you can wirelessly download EPG data via the Internet.
The bad: Setup is mostly straightforward, but we ran into a few snafus. It's also a little irritating that the remote has to be docked in its cradle to stream music.
The bottom line: The attractive, feature-rich Philips RC9800i is one of the first universal remotes to incorporate Wi-Fi wireless networking--but we hope some of its more annoying shortcomings will be improved upon with future firmware upgrades.
Philips was one of the pioneers of the premium touch-screen remote, but the company's trailblazing Pronto series has recently been retargeted as an installer-only line. For home-theater enthusiasts who still prefer to go the DIY route, however, Philips retains a consumer line of touch-screen models such as the RC9800i reviewed here. The RC9800i, which features a color screen and wireless streaming media capabilities, originally carried a list price of $500. But a few months after its release, Philips decided to lower its price by a hundred bucks, so it now sits at a slightly more palatable $400.
Sleek and understated, with carbon and silver coloring, the Philips PC9800i is one of the more attractive tablet-style remotes you'll see. You can either leave it sitting on a table or pick it up to tap out your commands using your thumbs or the tips of your index fingers. Measuring 4.01 by 5.90 by 1.02 inches (HWD) and weighing 7.49 ounces, the RC9800i feels lighter in hand than it looks at first glance, but its construction seems sturdy, and the finish appears as though it would hold up well over time. A nonremovable, rechargeable battery is built into the remote, which Philips says will give you about 3 hours of continuous use and two weeks of standby time, a figure that's in line with our testing results.
The majority of the action takes place on the 3.5-inch touch-screen display (320x240, 16-bit color), but the remote does have a handful of well-placed hard buttons, including channel-up and -down keys, a volume control, a five-way navigation pad, and convenient home and Back buttons that help when navigating menus. Press any of those buttons and a blue backlight comes on, illuminating the entire button array, an effect that further increases the remote's coolness factor when in the dark.
Aside from its high-tech design, the RC9800i's biggest selling point is its ability to stream music from your PC (or a compatible network hard drive) to a home stereo or powered speaker system. In fact, setting up the remote for streaming is actually easier than programming it to control your whole A/V system properly--more on that in a minute. The remote has a USB port for connecting to your PC, but it's just for firmware upgrades--and yes, you should make sure you have the latest firmware installed--not programming the remote.
To stream wirelessly, you'll need to connect the remote's cradle and A/V cables to your home stereo and tap into your 802.11b or 802.11g Wi-Fi network, which can be done right from the remote itself. On the PC side, you'll need to run Microsoft's Windows Media Connect application, a free download that's now the industry-standard media-server software, to stream music. To stream music and photos (BMP, GIF, and JPEG files), however, you'll have to run the included Philips Media Manager software. Mac users, meanwhile, are out of luck, unless they have Intel machines that run Apple's Boot Camp software.
Once we input our wireless network's security key--both WPA and WEP encryption is supported--we were easily able to locate our music folder on our PC (it has to be powered up, of course) and navigated through album and artist lists. The one catch is that, in order to stream the music to your home stereo, the remote has to be placed in its dock, which immobilizes it while keeping it charged--and pretty much obviates the RC9800i's potential to be a Sonos alternative. You can also stream to a TV, but an optional digital media adapter that streams images is required; the included cradle doesn't have this capability. Arguably, it's with the dock that Philips has stumbled. If the company had opted to make it even more versatile--expanding the network functionality and perhaps adding a series of IR blasters--it would have erased some of the RC9800i's shortcomings.
We also ran into an issue when we tried to stream music from a Maxtor network-attached storage drive that had media-server capabilities. The remote and the drive are both UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) compliant, which means they should be able to talk to each other, but there was a little hitch that kept us from playing the music files that we saw on the remote. Engineers at Philips created a special firmware upgrade for us to address the problem, and sure enough, when we installed it, we were able to play tunes directly from the Maxtor drive. The advantage to this setup is that you don't have to have your computer turned on to stream music, though it's worth noting that you can't stream photos from a network drive, only from a PC. Philips says that these types of issues should be completely resolved when Microsoft upgrades from UPnP to the new DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) standard. When that happens, Philips says it will offer a firmware upgrade for the RC9800i.
As for programming the remote itself, it's truly a mixed bag. On the surface, Philips has seemingly made things pretty simple. This is an activity-based remote, and you run through a set of wizards for the various components that make up your system. The wizard asks mostly straightforward questions about those components, and you'll be asked to point the RC9800i at each component while the remote fires off a series of IR codes. When the component reacts (turns on), you're asked to quickly tap on the screen to confirm what, in theory, should be the correct IR code. Everything seemed to go pretty smoothly until we finally got everything set up and tried to turn on the TV. Unfortunately, the TV failed to go to the correct input. We ran through the wizard three more times, making small tweaks, but the TV refused to go to the correct input at launch. The worst thing about it? The TV in question was a Philips.
Another potential downside for some users is the inability to customize the virtual buttons on the remote. As far as we could tell, there's little flexibility in this regard. Once you finish with the wizard, the virtual buttons that you see are all you get. From what we can tell, most of what you need is covered, but some functionality is missing. For instance, Philips Ambilight TV remotes have a dedicated button for toggling through your Ambilight or Ambilight 2 backlighting options. However, we saw no easy way to get to these options with the set of buttons we were given on the RC9800i.
That said, we expect that user experiences will vary widely with this remote. Some users will breeze through the setup, and others will run into snafus similar to the ones we did. The long and short of it is, Philips has designed a really nice remote that has some potential shortcomings, depending on the complexity of your system. On the plus side, you can set up the remote for components in multiple rooms--a feature not found in most remotes in this price range--and even wirelessly download Electronic Program Guide (EPG) data. On the downside, the RC9800i is probably best suited to buyers who don't have overly complicated setups with lots of components in each of their rooms.
Summing up, this is one of those products that you really want to like because it looks sweet and has some great features. Alas, the Philips RC9800i isn't completely baked yet and probably requires a series of firmware upgrades to work out the all of its kinks and maximize its potential. The good news is that the firmware upgrades will come. The bad news is that you may be playing a waiting game.
User reviews
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Awful. Not ready for Prime Time.
by eisenbri on December 28, 2005
Pros: Nice looking
Cons: Doesn't come close to delivering universal remote functions
Summary: Bought this hoping to get rid of 8 remotes tied to my system (Marantz surround receiver, Marantz CD Jukebox, Toshiba TV, XM Sat Radio, Insignia DVD/VCR Recorder, Digital Cable/...
Summary: Bought this hoping to get rid of 8 remotes tied to my system (Marantz surround receiver, Marantz CD Jukebox, Toshiba TV, XM Sat Radio, Insignia DVD/VCR Recorder, Digital Cable/DVR box) and finally have ease of control. The item is very slick looking but physical design is the only plus. It is very rigid in setting up activities, not easy to edit these and impossible to add additional steps. I even worked with their tech support whose best suggestion was to return the unit "it must be broken." I do not think the unit was broken, I just think it doesnt offer much functionality and for its price it should. Contrastingly, I returned this and bought the Logitech 880 which is absolutley incredible and easy to use. It does everything I could think of wanting to do with my home system, very intuititve and easy to change activities and is much less expensive. Support is also awesome for the Logitech. You can read my review on the 880 here at CNET under the same user id.
3 out of 4 users found this user opinion helpful.
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GREAT remote,.... For someone thats never used a decent one
by Turbo5upra on June 7, 2007
Pros: VERY easy program, good looks for price, wireless streaming
Cons: leaves your hands tied on almost any options
Summary: Having used most of the tsu lines in while working as a installer I thought i'd snag the cheap rc b/c of the good looks and streaming,... not ...
Summary: Having used most of the tsu lines in while working as a installer I thought i'd snag the cheap rc b/c of the good looks and streaming,... not a good choice for myself, for the avj. joe it will work pretty darn good, and setup in min's with a simple system
Big flaws.... when you have your system powered up for a dvd then switch to listen to a cd the tv stays on,.... not good for tv life.... and annoying... just needs a simple power off command at the start of the macro which I can't put in since the programing is done by the remote
Another flaw is that I have a Sony tv, which I know the are Discreat on/off commands out there but not on my factory remote,.... why didnt philips include these.... I think they would make peoples lives easier....
Ohwell i've only used it for about 10min's....if there are anymore flaws before tech support gets back to me on my programing unhappiness i'll post em
Oh, and to the guy that can stream video? cool since they only made it stream audio and pics can you tell us how?1 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
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A great looking remote that even my spouse can use
by mumum on November 16, 2005
Pros: Simple, easy to setup, wifi, intuitive and sexy.
Cons: Would be nice if programmable
Summary: I wanted to get a remote that looked and preformed as something special. The looks are gorgiuos as everyone seems to want to hold it when they visit. It is ...
Summary: I wanted to get a remote that looked and preformed as something special. The looks are gorgiuos as everyone seems to want to hold it when they visit. It is the easiest remote that I have used that is both touch screen and hard buttons. I really like the wi-fi feature as I can now stream music wirelessly through my sound system, as well as all our digital photos saved on my pc (it also does video streaming but I have not tried that as yet). The only thing I wish they did was make it programmable through the pc (upgrade maybe). This definitly is close to my goal and will do very nicely in the time being (until the next great remote

1 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Worst investment I ever made.
by skytones on May 11, 2009
Pros: Wifi connectivity, touch screen, image viewing, somewhat easy to use.
Cons: Terrible interface, out dated wifi protocols such as WPA. Slow, and dump menu setups. No firmware update since 2005!!! Not user friendly to say the least. No wired network connection. The device itself doesn't have a headphone jack.
Summary: Philips should have recalled this product years ago. Its over-priced and over rated. Unlike other philips products, this unit is very neglected and unsupported. The firmware is very old. The ...
Summary: Philips should have recalled this product years ago. Its over-priced and over rated. Unlike other philips products, this unit is very neglected and unsupported. The firmware is very old. The interface is horrible, and the unit is pain in the neck. I would definitely go for a well supported product such as Logitech Harmony 1100 as a universal remote control and a Logitech Squeeze Box as a media player. I am a big fan of philips products, but on this particular one, I give it 2 thumbs DOWN!
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Beats my Denon Atkis hands down
by tlcwagner on November 25, 2005
Pros: Easy to use, great set-up
Cons: User defined keys don't appear to have the option of renaming. A bit slow to load and somewise "bugging" (although turning it off and on seems to take care of it).
Summary: All in all, I really like this remote. I am not a computer geek, so it might not satisfy the true "wireless streamer" but I can't say for sure. ...
Summary: All in all, I really like this remote. I am not a computer geek, so it might not satisfy the true "wireless streamer" but I can't say for sure. As for me, I think it's pretty darn cool. It's very easy to use and I love how it remembers all of my input switching. For the price tag, it's one heck of a deal...
Specifications
- Manufacturer: Philips Consumer Electronics
- Part number: RC9800i
- Description: RC9800i Touch Screen Remote Control is a "must have" if you want to enjoy a real state-of-the-art home entertainment experience. You will see that using the RC9800i is very easy.
General
- Device Type Universal remote control
- Width 5.9 in
- Depth 4 in
- Height 0.9 in
Remote Control
- Connectivity Technology Infrared/radio
- Supported Devices Audio/video components
- Input Device Touch screen
- Features LCD display, Built-in speaker
- Display LCD display - 3.5 in TFT active matrix
- Color Display Yes
Connections
- Connector Type 1 x USB
Miscellaneous
- Included Accessories Docking station
Power
- Battery - Rechargeable - Lithium ion polymer
- Included Qty 1
- Capacity 1700 mAh
Manufacturer info
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