Sony LF-V30 LocationFree TV
Manufacturer: Sony Part number: LF-V30
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- Sony's latest LocationFree TV product adds compatibility with HD video sources, but its two big distinguishing factors--built-in wireless networking and PSP compatibility--aren't enough for most users to choose it over the competing Slingbox.
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CNET editors' review
Sony LF-V30 LocationFree TV price range: $150.00 - $249.99
- Reviewed by: John P. Falcone
- Reviewed on: 10/26/2007
- Released on: 09/15/2007
The good: Streams video sources, including live TV, to any broadband-connected Windows PC or PSP in the world; no host PC or monthly charges required; accepts HD component video signals; built-in wireless networking includes the ability to act as a full-service access point for your home network.
The bad: Setup and installation is still too convoluted for most users, especially for wireless networks; support for Mac and Windows Mobile software is handled by third parties (not Sony) that haven't updated the software in a long time; additional software clients for Windows PCs, Macs, and Windows Mobile handhelds cost extra.
The bottom line: Sony's latest LocationFree TV product adds compatibility with HD video sources, but its two big distinguishing factors--built-in wireless networking and PSP compatibility--aren't enough for most users to choose it over the competing Slingbox.
But Sony has stayed in the game, releasing follow-up products that that have attempted to challenge Sling's dominance. The latest such device is the LF-V30, the first LocationFree TV product to be released since the products were transferred under the rubric of Sony's PC-centric VAIO division. The LF-V30 ($250 list) adds compatibility for HD component video and has full pass-through inputs and outputs for two separate video sources. But otherwise, there's no big improvement over last year's LF-B20.
As a result, the LF-V30's flaws are even more glaring in comparison to the comparable Slingbox models, the Slingbox Pro and the Slingbox Solo. Sony's setup process still ranges from mildly to excessively frustrating--especially if you go wireless--and the viewing software and control options get the job done, but just don't offer the same degree of ease and intuitive design found on the Sling counterpart. As such, the LocationFree LF-V30 is really only commendable over a Slingbox to those who will use its two distinguishing features: the ability to stream video to a PSP, and the ability to connect to a Wi-Fi network.
About the size of a hardcover book, the all-black LocationFree TV LF-V30 could be mistaken for a somewhat fat wireless router--understandable, because that's pretty much what it is. Like Sony's PlayStation game consoles, it can be mounted horizontally or vertically (a snap-on plastic base is included). The front face of the minimalist black box has a smattering of green status LEDs, along with a power switch, a setup mode button (for use during the initial configuration), and a reset switch. As always, though, the back panel is where the action is. There are two A/V inputs. The first includes S-Video (in addition to composite) and stereo audio inputs, along with a duplicate set of pass-through outputs. The second is composite and component, the latter of which can handle high-def signals. There's also an Ethernet port for a wired network connection; the wireless antenna is internal. Last but not least, there are two infrared (IR) blaster ports--although the Base Station ships with only one single-headed blaster.

Setting up the LF-V30 is a two-step process: you need to get it connected to your network (which involves installing the included software on a PC), and you need to connect the AV cables to the video source (or sources). For the networking setup, you're offered two wireless options: using the LF-V30 as a wireless client or using it as a wireless access point. Client mode means the LF-V30 can wirelessly connect only to your wireless router--which is great if you don't have an Ethernet connection near your TV. Access point mode, on the other hand, lets you use the LF-V30 as a point of entry to your network for any other Wi-Fi device (laptop, handheld, PSP, DS, what have you)--but to do so, it requires a wired connection to the router. In other words, the wireless functionality is an either/or proposition--connect wirelessly to your router, or to your PC/PSP, but not both simultaneously. That doesn't make the LF-V30 different from any other access point or router you'd buy--just don't buy it expecting it to work as a wireless bridge.
Because of those advanced wireless capabilities, the LF-V30's networking hookup is more challenging than that of the Slingbox. Sony says the LF-V30 quick start guide is improved over last year's LF-B20 model, but the average user will still find it to be something of a challenge. (Another caveat: if you intend to use the LF-V30 in client mode, you'll need to run a wired networking connection during setup--unless you're using the Vista-optimized setup software instead.) During the process, you'll need to install the included LocationFree Player software, which includes a setup wizard. The software wizard is a bit easier to follow than the quick-start guide, but it requires you to enter a Web browser at one point to adjust some settings on the LF-V30--similar to the browser-based interfaces found on most wireless routers. If you slow down and follow the printed and software instructions step by step, you just might make it through. By comparison, if you have a UPnP router, the setup options on the Slingbox are a lot smoother and user-friendly.
During the setup process, you'll also need to connect the LF-V30 to a video source or two. Doing so is no more difficult than hooking up a VCR or a DVD recorder. We appreciated the pass-through outputs, which let the LF-V30 sit innocuously in the chain between our cable box and the AV receiver, without the need for splitters or monopolizing precious S-Video and component outputs. The most likely video source for the LF-V30 is a cable or satellite set-top box, which will let you watch the full range of your live TV options. You choose the make and model of your set-top box or other video source from an onscreen list so the V30 can send the right codes via the IR blaster, which you need to string to the front of said box. Here, Sony has included two very cool options. The system can autodetect the brand of your set-top box if you point and "shoot" your remote into a small IR receiver on the LF-V30's front panel when instructed to do so (it correctly determined that we had a Scientific Atlanta box). And, if you have a brand that's not in the database, you can have the LF-V30 "learn" the main commands from any remote and map them to corresponding keys on the onscreen remote on your PC.
Once you've got the software installed and everything connected, you should be able to view your cable/satellite box from your PC. You'll get a video window with basic controls, with the standalone onscreen remote on the side. If everything's gone according to plan, you'll have the same control over your set-top box whether you're in the next room or logging on from any broadband access point in the world. On a home network, you'll get higher speeds (in excess of 3Mbps) and a resulting better picture quality; the result can look quite good even when the window is maximized for full-screen viewing. When viewing over the Internet--which is to say, when you log in from any place outside of your home network--you'll be restricted by the upstream bandwidth of your broadband connection, so the visual fidelity takes a hit. But we still got a reasonably watchable picture, especially if we didn't blow it up to full screen. (Note that the LF-V30 can accept high-def (720p/1080i) video, but it downconverts it for streaming.)
On the Windows viewing software, Sony has made a few notable improvements. The onscreen software "remote" had all of the important keys for our DVR (including the all-important "list" function), and the template can now be updated, so you can add more customized keys for anything that's missing. Sony also says that remote "skins" are available--so the onscreen remote mirrors the familiar look and feel of your device's remote--but we couldn't seem to get that function to work.
Prefer to watch your TV shows on a device other than your PC? LocationFree products are theoretically supported on Macs and Windows Mobile devices, but there are a variety of caveats. For the Mac, you'll need to invest in viewing software from Taxan (aka IO-Data) to do so; we didn't have a copy on hand, so we didn't test it. But according to the company's Web site, the client isn't even verified to work with the LF-V30. Likewise, Access (the company that owns the rights to the Palm OS) offers the NetFront LocationFree Player for Pocket PC ($20)--but compatibility is limited to Windows Mobile 5.0 and 2003 Second Edition devices, and the company has "no plan to support Windows Mobile 6." On the brighter side, any PSP with the latest firmware is ready to go: you'll just need to pair the PSP with the LF-V30 first (follow the onscreen instructions on the PSP to do so). Once it's paired up, you should be able to access and control the LF-V30 from the PSP just as easily as you would on a PC or a Mac. Both the PC and PSP viewing clients have multiple aspect-ratio options, so you can stretch, squash, and zoom the picture to fit the squarish confines of a standard 4:3 monitor or a wider 16:9 viewing space, as found on a PSP.
Even if you stick with Windows, installing a player is something of an annoyance. The included software has a license, of course, but you can use that only on one machine. Each additional Windows PC will require another license (software key) at a cost of $30. So, if you want to view your home TV programming on more than one computer--say, your personal laptop and your work PC--you're going to have to shell out more money. (Sony VAIO owners, at least, get a freebie; the LocationFree software comes preinstalled on those PCs as of summer 2007.)
Compare that software rigmarole to the Slingbox experience. Sling offers freely downloadable Windows and Mac versions, so you can install the viewing client on as many computers as you want for no additional charge. (Only one can log on at any given time, but it's still a huge advantage.) As long as you have the Slingbox serial number and password, you can effectively download and install the software and watch your home TV from any computer in the world, without being bogged down paying additional fees. And while Sling also charges for its mobile software clients, each of them--for Palm OS, Windows Mobile, and Symbian smartphones--are updated much more frequently, and the downloads and customer support documents are all in one convenient place: Sling's Web site. Likewise, if you have a problem with any of them, you deal with Sling's customer service--not a third party.
It's also worth mentioning some of the caveats that apply to all of these so-called placeshifting devices, including the Slingbox. Most importantly, the LF-V30 will monopolize whatever device--or devices--to which it's attached. That's no problem if the cable box in question is sitting in an empty house, and you're out on the road; it's a big problem if a family member is at home watching TV, and you decide to remotely change the channel. Secondly, the LocationFree TV products are only as good as the products they're connected to. Linking it to a TiVo/DVR gives you a lot more freedom to play back any programs you've already recorded, while a standard cable or satellite box provides access only to live TV--not very useful if nothing's on. Finally, the video quality is largely determined by the upstream broadband connection at the source; if your bandwidth isn't in the sweet spot (say, 350Kbps to 500Kbps), you'll get a lot of herky-jerky video.
In the final analysis, the LocationFree LF-V30 is an incremental improvement over the preceding LF-B20 model. If wireless connectivity is a must, or you're a heavy PSP user, the LF-V30 is the box for you. But everyone else will be better served by a Slingbox, which offers easier setup and installation, a better software client, and solid support for far more devices, including Macs and Palm, Windows Mobile, and Symbian smartphones.
User reviews
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Could be great, but misses the mark
by bradigan on October 22, 2007
Pros: Looks good, big improvements over previous versions, built-in wireless, PSP integration, generally very easy to setup
Cons: Only one computer can have the LocationFree software installed, software occasionally stalls or becomes choppy, PSP setup is not documented properly
Summary: I had a hard time deciding between the LF-V30 and the SlingBox Solo. I finally decided on the LocationFree because of the ability to use the PSP LocationFree player. The ...
Summary: I had a hard time deciding between the LF-V30 and the SlingBox Solo. I finally decided on the LocationFree because of the ability to use the PSP LocationFree player. The other key selling point is the built-in wireless function including the ability to use the device as a WAP, in case you don't already have a wireless router but want to take advantage of the wireless feature.
The one glaring problem that I'm having a very hard time overcoming is that you can only install one instance of the player software. You can load it again on another computer, but only after disabling the previous install settings from the LocationFree base. The process is far too annoying to be able to just switch when necessary. You are effectively bound to one device. Fortunately, the PSP has it's own player, so this doesn't affect the license limitation. It seems that you can purchase more licenses for about $30 per machine, but this is insane given the already high cost of the unit.
I was unable to find anyplace in the documentation that indicates that the LF base must be set to AP (instead of client) when connecting a PSP. I spent 15-30 minutes before figuring this out. Once setup, the PSP has a LocationFree wifi SSID, which I deleted since I already had a wireless connection configured and I wanted it to use my regular WAP. There may be some benefit to connecting directly, but I would have liked to have had the choice.
The LF-V30 has some great features, such as being able to setup a player remotely without having to have physical access to the LF base unit. Unfortunately, this feature is of limited benefit since you can only install one player.
Although the wireless and PSP features give this unit a huge advantage over the SlingBox models, the player limitation on the LF is such a huge hurdle that I'm not sure it's worth keeping. There will probably be an exchange in the near future...3 out of 3 users found this user opinion helpful.
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It is not difficult at all...
by maesd on June 19, 2008
Pros: Setup was easy on my network at home. Installation of software on two PC's and 2 laptops was easy. Great quality within my home and great quality from overseas in Europe.
Cons: I wish more than one connection can be made at any given time. I have no other complaints at all.
Summary: I was very skeptical when I bought this at CompUSA, but it dropped down to $130 and so I figured I would give it a shot. My wife and kids ...
Summary: I was very skeptical when I bought this at CompUSA, but it dropped down to $130 and so I figured I would give it a shot. My wife and kids had moved back to Germany ahead of me and they complain about missing TV in the states. I installed this onto my network very easily. I hooked up the DVR and DVD player to the 2 inputs. I then installed the software onto 1 PC as a test. Connected instantly. I downloaded the software that requires no key from Sony's website for free and installed it onto another PC. Same result. I then had a family member who lives 125 miles from me install it on their PC and they too had absolutely no issue. They were able to control my DVR the same way as if they were sitting in my living room. They were also able to use my DVD player to watch a DVD I put into it. My last test was to have my wife install it onto her laptop in Germany. I sent her the software via email and gave her step by step instructions on registering the base station. My wife and kids watch TV from my DVR every single day. In fact, they have taken over the DVR because I can never record anything because it is always near capacity. I am going to Germany in a week so I bought an LF-B20 and will install it in our home in Germany to a German satellite reciever using a PAL -> NTSC converter to stream the German programming back to California. Wish me luck !
1 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
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Remote TV and home security
by MuddyRoads on October 18, 2009
Pros: View your home TV(change channels,set program start-ups,volume using your identical animated TV controller on screen),security cameras,etc while anywhere in the world through the internet.
Cons: If you have a power loss at home while away...will the LF-V30 repower itself??
The TV can through your screen remote controller.Summary: I can watch live video of all my security cameras.
I do not own one yet.
Con....will it repower itself after a power lose?
Updated on Oct 18, 2009Summary: I can watch live video of all my security cameras.
I do not own one yet.
Con....will it repower itself after a power lose?
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AP functionality a plus
by rlarivee on December 20, 2008
Pros: Bought this device to stream my directv to PCs/psp. Setup was a snap, and the ability to serve as a second access point is an unexpected plus.
Cons: I'd like better support for winmobile.
Summary: Great buy, works better than expected.
Summary: Great buy, works better than expected.
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Great Product! Setup was very easy for laptop and PSP.
by dmata10 on December 12, 2008
Pros: The system was basically plug and play. But I think what helped things out was that I had a Sony Vaio with the software already loaded. But even then it was a cinch to use. But I did read the manual before I tried doing anything.
Cons: Finding the remote control to work with my DirecTv box was knd of a hassle but I found the right one.
Summary: I had been wanting this item for a while now but kept hearing how awful the setup was and what a hassle it was. So I was just about to ...
Summary: I had been wanting this item for a while now but kept hearing how awful the setup was and what a hassle it was. So I was just about to go and buy a Sling Media Slingbox Pro-HD, when I found an LF-V30 on eBay for $45.99 with free shipping. Well I just could not pass this deal up so I went ahead and got it and it turned out to be one of the best deals I ever got off of eBay. And like I said setup was a snap and you can use the LF-V30 either wireless or wired, because my Vaio is hardwired and I get the signal cystal clear and my PSP gets the signal via Wi-Fi. So I have no complaints because everything works perfectly.
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Bad experience with LF-V30
by vitorpachecomoreira on December 9, 2008
Pros: Nothing to say... it does not work
Cons: Have you realized that there is no reference to the video signal supported?
Correct. It does not support PAL. Though, there is no single line in the manual, in the web site, nor in the support pages. Tthe support just gives you a dear John email...Summary: Absolutely CRAP
SONY is incredible. No customer orientation.
From now on, I do not consider any product SONY.
Their support is incredible. I waited for more than 1 hour to ...Summary: Absolutely CRAP
SONY is incredible. No customer orientation.
From now on, I do not consider any product SONY.
Their support is incredible. I waited for more than 1 hour to have a phone call answered.
I received an acknowledgment on my email with a statement it would be replied in 6 hours. 48 hours later I had to send a second email. The first reply was not very helpful. The second reply was just a dear john email. It was the time I decided to call their support. For more than 1 hour I waited to have an agent to speak with... And, nothing.
As far as I am concerned, I will simply do all I can to make sure others benefit from my experience and consider real alternatives to the SONY offerings.
If you read this review, consider seriously if this is the right choice. If all goes well, you may be lucky. Otherwise, you will not have any chance.0 out of 1 users found this user opinion helpful.
Specifications
- Manufacturer: Sony
- Part number: LF-V30
- Description: Channel surf through your local channels even if you're not local. The LF-V30 LocationFree Base Station grants you access to your personal DVR content and local TV channels from wherever you are. You can even connect your DVD or VCR to the base station and enjoy your home movie collection while on the road. For added convenience, you can easily connect your camcorder and monitor your home from work or while vacationing in another country. With so much versatility at your fingertips, there's always something good on TV, no matter where you are. Internet connection required. Broadband connection recommended. The LocationFree Base Station is a device that connects to your cable or satellite box and streams your TV shows and DVR content over the Internet for you to watch and control anywhere you go. Now you can watch live local news, recorded DVR content or the hometown ballgame wherever you have Internet access, whether you're cooking in the kitchen or enjoying room service in a hotel halfway around the world. The Location Free Base Station is ideal for mobile professionals, displaced students and travelers seeking the comforts of home TV from the road. With a Base Station streaming local programming and news for you to access over the Internet, far away doesn't seem so far away. With a LocationFree Base Station, you can watch and control content on your DVR from virtually anywhere you go. Great for catching up on your recorded programs from the road, this feature is also handy for in-home use. Since a DVR stores its content to a local hard drive, you can normally only watch this programming on the TV that the DVR is connected too. But with a LocationFree Base Station, your DVR is freed from your living room and available for you to access when you want, where you want. You can even remotely setup DVR recordings from your connected device, so you're sure not to miss your favorite programming, even if you're running late.
System
- A/V System Recommended Use Home
Network & Internet Multimedia
- Functionality Digital audio broadcasting, Digital video broadcasting
- Connectivity Wired, Wireless
- Connectivity Protocols IEEE 802.11a, IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.11b (Wi-Fi)
Connections
- Connector Type 1 x Network ( RJ-45 ), 1 x Component video input, 1 x Composite video output, 1 x S-Video input, 1 x Composite video/audio input, 1 x S-Video output, 1 x Composite video/audio output, 2 x Remote control
Miscellaneous
- Included Accessories IR blaster
- Cables Included Video / audio cable, Network cable
Power
- Type External
Manufacturer info
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